How will the recession effect our industry?

[tony404]

Originally Posted by Hell Puppy

I have a slightly different prediction.

Government intervention is a perpetual threat. I'm old enough and have been doing this long enough that it first started for me with Meese. Problem is the governments cant react quickly enough. And with the internet, it'll be just like gambling, even if clearly against current laws, you've got offshoring to fight.

My prediction?

Sponsors will turn more to generating their own traffic, being very selective about affiliates they accept, and it'll start to turn the landscape on it's ear a bit. Shrinking margins mean little room to support a needy affiliate who sends 2 sales a month. I see a lot of people having to go get more traditional jobs.

What does that mean for tubes? Everyone I know of in the adult arena that isn't already owned by one of the big companies is for sale. I see sponsors buying them up, cleaning them up and using them for a traffic source.

I wasnt clear, Im not thinking of just America, Im thinking of other governments. Germany wants age verification and if your wind up in their sights now, you get a letter and your lawyer recommends not to go visit there. Australia is trying to filter it out. Im thinking places you would never imagine saying no more.Besides being banned if its also filtered out, doesnt matter where you go, your done pretty much online.
BT's, news groups, tgp's,etc a ton of free porn but doesnt send a message to the nontech savvy as a tube site.

[tony404]

On another board they are talking about tubes and here is something to ponder
"I'm staring at 14k hits from the biggest one with 0 signups.

Those are hits to a usually very nicely converting adult site.

The traffic going to other things does ok.

Take from that what you will."

[gonzo]

Originally Posted by tony404

On another board they are talking about tubes and here is something to ponder
"I'm staring at 14k hits from the biggest one with 0 signups.

Those are hits to a usually very nicely converting adult site.

The traffic going to other things does ok.

Take from that what you will."

No different than sending traffic from google's adwords program to someone elses revshare program. You will break even at best if you are only getting 50%.

PPS isnt even worth the time.

And breaking even is over the longhaul.

Tube sites are no different. Youd better have something your getting paid 100% of recurs to make any money.

If you look at it month to month your right. Both are a huge loss.

[Hell Puppy]

Originally Posted by gonzo

No different than sending traffic from google's adwords program to someone elses revshare program. You will break even at best if you are only getting 50%.

PPS isnt even worth the time.

And breaking even is over the longhaul.

Tube sites are no different. Youd better have something your getting paid 100% of recurs to make any money.

If you look at it month to month your right. Both are a huge loss.

Anyone bought a spot on The Hun or any other big TGP lately and wanna share those numbers?

[gonzo]

Originally Posted by Hell Puppy

Anyone bought a spot on The Hun or any other big TGP lately and wanna share those numbers?

KevinG was telling me about a Hun story in Vegas.

[KevinG]

Originally Posted by gonzo

KevinG was telling me about a Hun story in Vegas.

Here's the scoop on that.

As you know, Joanna Angel is one of my top clients and I work on her solo girl site and other sites she owns as an independent contractor.

She also has an office with employees on staff.

While I do spend some resources promoting with free sites with fair results, I have written off TGPs a long time ago.

However, one of the employees was successful at getting a gallery placed on The Hun.

In 2 days we got 175,000 unique visitors from The Hun.

Anyone want to guess how many sign-ups we got?

(Gonzo -don't answer.)

[EmporerEJ]

Originally Posted by KevinG

Here's the scoop on that.

As you know, Joanna Angel is one of my top clients and I work on her solo girl site and other sites she owns as an independent contractor.

She also has an office with employees on staff.

While I do spend some resources promoting with free sites with fair results, I have written off TGPs a long time ago.

However, one of the employees was successful at getting a gallery placed on The Hun.

In 2 days we got 175,000 unique visitors from The Hun.

Anyone want to guess how many sign-ups we got?

(Gonzo -don't answer.)

I'm gonna go for less than 10?