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Old 01-19-2008   #1
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Overall, I like the format change. Bt I think they need to learn from the issues at this show. I also think they need a better venue. I'll have a hard time going next year if it's at the Palms.

One of the things I liked about the format is it did do a better job than previous vegas shows of getting everyone in the same place at the same time as there wasn't any other decent accomodations nearby. But that's the problem, I am not happy with the Palms, and I think it's just a tad too small for the show. They're on my shit list, and I'd hate to end up staying with the rejects over at the Gold Coast, Rio, Caesars or Wynn or wherever.

The show floor in a night club was kinda odd. There was no natural traffic pattern. I think I missed a half dozen or more sponsors cuz I didn't notice they had them stuck up in the rafters. I do like the more casual show floor approach though, just needs to be something in there to lure everyone in at the same time so you can actually see everyone.

Therein lies my big fault with the show. There are quite a few people I know were at the show that I wanted to talk to that I never bumped into. I hit the show floor a handful of times. I spent time each day at the circle bar. And when it came time for the parties and suites, I pretty much opted to stay in one place and enjoy the hospitality of the AEBN crew, since I know a few of them well, as that seemed to be where everyone passed thru sooner or later.

But still I missed a few folks.

The seminars, well, I've never gone to the shows for those to begin with. I attended a couple, that probably doubles the number I've attended in last 5 years. They were better than in the past, but that still doesn't say much. The problems with seminars in general are two fold...

1) The people on the panel have their own agenda, they are marketing their product.

2) The people in the crowd are like squirrels hunting a nut.

GonZo already pointed out the chick telling everyone to convert VOD to flash. I cant even begin to tell you what's wrong with that. But we'll start with the fact that VOD by it's nature is one business model that can afford DRM and DRM is tailor made for it.

But I digress. My favorite question from the floor was why can you pay the original referrer of a surfer to a site the payout instead of the last one to send him over. This guy reckons that if he sends a surfer to xyz.com and that surfer buys nothing then, but hits the site again 8 months later send from some other affiliate, then he should get paid as the original referrer who turned the guy onto the site to begin with.

Forget the technical issues of that. And let's forget that the guy is a moron because he doesn't realize he failed to sell the surfer whereas the second guy sold him on signing up. The real tell here is this guy is hard up enough for his $30 that he wants it even if it is a year later.
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Old 01-19-2008   #2
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Hated the hotel. See some potential in new format with some polish and a better location. Seminars were what they always are. Decent parties.

Oh that reminds me of one other thing I hated. On the suite floors they did not do a good job of keeping non-industry people out. It could've gotten bad on a busier week in vegas if word about free booze and partying with porn stars was available. I always get nervous when non-industry mixes in because they have perceptions about what is and is not ok with the girls in particular. It can be a little dangerous.

But anyhow, I personally got a lot of business done.

I hooked up a few new deals. We have a lot of new things we're going to do and roll out in the next few weeks and months. We even made a couple of strategic hires and will be looking to do more of those. We'll make some announcements and introductions at the appropriate time.

I'm also reworking a lot of my business and will be removing quite a few sponsors and adding some new ones, ditto for some of my vendors. I laid some good ground work there. And for those who seemed to be ducking us, oh well, I'll point it all elsewhere.

A lot more work than fun this trip, though I did get to spend some time in the company of the lovely miss Trisha Uptown. If she'll go to a couple of more dinners with us, we'll fix that problem she was having with her pants being too loose. But seriously, there's a lot more than just a pretty face and hot body there guys. She's the real deal, doing her own site and taking care of her customers first hand, not just a front for some big company.

And big thanks to AEBN for all of their hospitality. The Kingpin suite was about twice the size of the others and AEBN was by far the most hospitable of all of the sponsors. Looks like a few jackasses tried to take advantage of that, but no harm was done as it was very professionally run with good security on hand. I think everyone who went in there had a great time.

For the record, even as jaded as I am, I dont think I've ever seen naked bowling before....

We'll see what I have in the camera later...it was dark in there, dont know what I was able to pull out.
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Oh that reminds me of one other thing I hated. On the suite floors they did not do a good job of keeping non-industry people out. It could've gotten bad on a busier week in vegas if word about free booze and partying with porn stars was available. I always get nervous when non-industry mixes in because they have perceptions about what is and is not ok with the girls in particular. It can be a little dangerous...
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And big thanks to AEBN for all of their hospitality. The Kingpin suite was about twice the size of the others and AEBN was by far the most hospitable of all of the sponsors. Looks like a few jackasses tried to take advantage of that, but no harm was done as it was very professionally run with good security on hand. I think everyone who went in there had a great time.
HellPuppy - It was good to meet you, though I wish I could've had a little more time to actually chat! Thanks so much for the kind words about our suite and staff - it's always nice to see effort and hard work appreciated!
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HellPuppy - It was good to meet you, though I wish I could've had a little more time to actually chat! Thanks so much for the kind words about our suite and staff - it's always nice to see effort and hard work appreciated!
Hey, HellPuppy....is she really that cute?
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Hey, HellPuppy....is she really that cute?
She is, but everytime I saw her all she wanted to do was talk about Rcourt and ask questions about him. She's quite enamored, the rest of us dont stand a chance.
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She is, but everytime I saw her all she wanted to do was talk about Rcourt and ask questions about him. She's quite enamored, the rest of us dont stand a chance.
DAMN!


But, then again, she hasn't met me "in person" yet......

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But, then again, she hasn't met me "in person" yet......


Well, why not?! :P
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Hated the hotel. See some potential in new format with some polish and a better location. Seminars were what they always are. Decent parties.

Oh that reminds me of one other thing I hated. On the suite floors they did not do a good job of keeping non-industry people out. It could've gotten bad on a busier week in vegas if word about free booze and partying with porn stars was available. I always get nervous when non-industry mixes in because they have perceptions about what is and is not ok with the girls in particular. It can be a little dangerous.

But anyhow, I personally got a lot of business done.

I hooked up a few new deals. We have a lot of new things we're going to do and roll out in the next few weeks and months. We even made a couple of strategic hires and will be looking to do more of those. We'll make some announcements and introductions at the appropriate time.

I'm also reworking a lot of my business and will be removing quite a few sponsors and adding some new ones, ditto for some of my vendors. I laid some good ground work there. And for those who seemed to be ducking us, oh well, I'll point it all elsewhere.

A lot more work than fun this trip, though I did get to spend some time in the company of the lovely miss Trisha Uptown. If she'll go to a couple of more dinners with us, we'll fix that problem she was having with her pants being too loose. But seriously, there's a lot more than just a pretty face and hot body there guys. She's the real deal, doing her own site and taking care of her customers first hand, not just a front for some big company.

And big thanks to AEBN for all of their hospitality. The Kingpin suite was about twice the size of the others and AEBN was by far the most hospitable of all of the sponsors. Looks like a few jackasses tried to take advantage of that, but no harm was done as it was very professionally run with good security on hand. I think everyone who went in there had a great time.

For the record, even as jaded as I am, I dont think I've ever seen naked bowling before....

We'll see what I have in the camera later...it was dark in there, dont know what I was able to pull out.
It was great to hang out with you as well.
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The show was good for us in general, I like the changes that AVN made. The Kingpin Suite was pretty damn cool too.... thanks to AEBN for giving us a place to party, and the substances to MAKE it a party. Meaning... all the vodka I could drink. LOL

As for The Palms.... it's a split decision. I liked the facilities, my room was decent. The suites were very cool. BUT... I couldn't help shake the feeling that serious assholes ran that place. Overbooking the rooms was just criminal. And I understand they turned up the heat for the entire hotel because the owner's mother was staying there and she wanted it warmer. Unbelievable.

I didn't attend most of the seminars, but whoever moderated that legal panel... now HE did a fantastic job!
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As for The Palms.... it's a split decision. I liked the facilities, my room was decent. The suites were very cool. BUT... I couldn't help shake the feeling that serious assholes ran that place. Overbooking the rooms was just criminal. And I understand they turned up the heat for the entire hotel because the owner's mother was staying there and she wanted it warmer. Unbelievable.
Smells like AVN signed a two year deal out of the gate or already executed an option at the very least. That's a shame. The format could work, but I'd really love to see 'em try it in a hotel with a clue.

Right now I really do not like the idea of returning to that property. Bad food, bad air circulation, small casino, tight slots and a hotel operations staff that does NOT have a clue.
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