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Old 01-14-2008   #1
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Default Re: How will the recession effect our industry?

let's see... recession? Hmmm.

At this point, the unemployment rate is still pretty low. People are still working. Obviously, if the housing thing becomes a bigger issue than it already is, there will be all sorts of implications. Potentially the largest issue for online porn would be credit issues, people losing credit cards, and not being able to make online purchases. We are still very dependant on credit cards to make this business go.

The upsides? Well, if unemployment goes up, there is a potential that more models will become available and willing to do porn for cash. We could also see an increase in online business as guys stop being able to afford $300 or more for a night at the titty bar, replaced with a $5 download of a porn movie or a $25 a month membership to a site.

With the US dollar so low, the prices of memberships expressed in US dollars are really low now for European buyers, so much so that American based porn is pretty much a give away. I have noticed a trend in sales that I see more action across almost all programs in the key european hours, and not in the key US hours.

There is money out there, just have to find it.
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I find it curious how everyone is desperate to climb on the European bandwagon. I have been pounding that drum forever and have always done very well in Europe. Its amazing how a blip in sales brings on yet another "new wave" of marketing genius. As for the analysis, I don't quite agree. This "housing thing" is huge. A whole lot of people have been living way beyond their means for a long time. And the piper is starting to send out invoices in plain red envelopes.
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I find it curious how everyone is desperate to climb on the European bandwagon...
been riding that wagon for awhile now. I love those kinky fuckin' Germans.
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been riding that wagon for awhile now. I love those kinky fuckin' Germans.
For me its the English and Italians. But yeah, what you said.
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get out the bidness now! for u all burn in hell!
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Uh huh.....I heard that five years ago....and before that...BW, you gotta get some original material. Much as I think you are an astute gentlemen, you do fall flat. And this be it, dude.
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I find it curious how everyone is desperate to climb on the European bandwagon. I have been pounding that drum forever and have always done very well in Europe. Its amazing how a blip in sales brings on yet another "new wave" of marketing genius. As for the analysis, I don't quite agree. This "housing thing" is huge. A whole lot of people have been living way beyond their means for a long time. And the piper is starting to send out invoices in plain red envelopes.
I think the difference is now I am seeing this sort of move even on sites and projects that aren't specifically aimed at the euro market. The overall sales are happening more that way naturally. It's funny to think of the US as a low cost provider of anything except the boy king's lies.
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Default Re: How will the recession effect our industry?

Oh, and I hate to nit pick, but it SHOULD be:

How will the recession "AFFECT" our industry, not "EFFECT" it.

Had you said: "What EFFECT will the recession have on our industry?"
That would have been Ok......but, you know, you didn't, and it's really been bothering me.

Can't sleep...pacing the floor....the usual.

Don't feel bad, it's a common mistake. It just jumps off the page at me, 'cause I'm anal about those things.


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Oh, and I hate to nit pick, but it SHOULD be:

How will the recession "AFFECT" our industry, not "EFFECT" it.

Had you said: "What EFFECT will the recession have on our industry?"
That would have been Ok......but, you know, you didn't, and it's really been bothering me.

Can't sleep...pacing the floor....the usual.

Don't feel bad, it's a common mistake. It just jumps off the page at me, 'cause I'm anal about those things.


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I think the difference is now I am seeing this sort of move even on sites and projects that aren't specifically aimed at the euro market. The overall sales are happening more that way naturally. It's funny to think of the US as a low cost provider of anything except the boy king's lies.
i do agree with you. But sad to say, no offense intended, this is old news. I remember going toe to toe with Mike AI, who drifted away when it all went sideways. But I knew I was right then and I know nothing has changed.
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yeah, it is just something that is way more obvious than it use to be. The European sales had come up across pretty much all programs I deal with (from what I could gather) and now what I am seeing is the US and Canadian sales slipping away. So it isn't so much that the euro sales went up that much, as much as the us sales slipped away and made it easier to see.

US content producers must be thrilled.
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