How will the recession effect our industry?

[softball]

and btw, you should be worried as anyone in retail with any sense is. You can't swim against the market when you have a non essential item aimed at the masses. You ain't selling Lambos.

[KevinG]

Wow. Great thread.

In general, I agree with Forest that this business is recession resistant. My business is rolling along. All of these areas are either up or steady for me, and nothing is down:

B2B side: Web Development, SEO & Consulting, Traffic development - all doing good.

B2C side: Burning Angel, Joanna Angel, Cigar Glamour - all sites have subscriptions up.

Tobacco (since it was mentioned) - Referral sales for Cigar Review are up. Keep in mind too that premium handmade cigars are more of a luxury product than an addiction, like cigarettes.

The only thing that I have heard is down a little is advertising spending on the B2B side in the adult online business, but that was just from one person.

[boobman]

I think its not recession proof but recesion resistant. And porn IS a commodity no doubht bout it.

[gonzo]

Originally Posted by KevinG

Wow. Great thread.

In general, I agree with Forest that this business is recession resistant. My business is rolling along. All of these areas are either up or steady for me, and nothing is down:

B2B side: Web Development, SEO & Consulting, Traffic development - all doing good.

B2C side: Burning Angel, Joanna Angel, Cigar Glamour - all sites have subscriptions up.

Tobacco (since it was mentioned) - Referral sales for Cigar Review are up. Keep in mind too that premium handmade cigars are more of a luxury product than an addiction, like cigarettes.

The only thing that I have heard is down a little is advertising spending on the B2B side in the adult online business, but that was just from one person.

Board business is hard work. Posting bullshit and fake drama has run its course. AP knows who to call when they want the straight scoop.

[softball]

Originally Posted by gonzo

Board business is hard work. Posting bullshit and fake drama has run its course. AP knows who to call when they want the straight scoop.

Drama has run its course I agree. Tube sites are as scarey as tgp's were in the day. It still all depends on your USP as it did then, as it does now, and as it always shall.

[tony404]

Originally Posted by rhetorical

Drama has run its course I agree. Tube sites are as scarey as tgp's were in the day. It still all depends on your USP as it did then, as it does now, and as it always shall.

tubes and tgps are two completely different things. 15 pics in gallery against 30 min movies, not even in the same ball park.

[softball]

Originally Posted by tony404

tubes and tgps are two completely different things. 15 pics in gallery against 30 min movies, not even in the same ball park.

I have no idea how long you have been in this biz, but a gallery of 15 to 30 pics in 2001 was very formidable. Combine that with "The Hun" and you were up against some stiff competition. So I have to disagree.

[tony404]

Originally Posted by rhetorical

I have no idea how long you have been in this biz, but a gallery of 15 to 30 pics in 2001 was very formidable. Combine that with "The Hun" and you were up against some stiff competition. So I have to disagree.

since 2000 and you cant compare it to full scenes. 15 pics is not a full gallery.

[Hell Puppy]

Originally Posted by tony404

tubes and tgps are two completely different things. 15 pics in gallery against 30 min movies, not even in the same ball park.

Where are you seeing 30 minute movies?

[gonzo]

Originally Posted by Hell Puppy

Where are you seeing 30 minute movies?

He might be wearing Paul Markhams glasses.

[RawAlex]

Originally Posted by Hell Puppy

Where are you seeing 30 minute movies?

I have found a number of tube sites with movies ranging from 4 to 15 minutes. Considering that most guys, given material they like can pretty much spank one out in about 10 minutes means that these sites are very poisonous to the business goal of free porn: Selling pay porn.

The very basics of the business is get their dicks hard and don't let them get off until you get their money. Tube sites don't respect that, instead making their living off of selling ad spaces, dating memberships, poker, and PPC spaces. They for the most part don't sell porn - they sell everything else but.