How will the recession effect our industry?

[Hell Puppy]

Originally Posted by tony404

The whole recession proof thing was for bars and porn shops not the net. I think gas goes up to 4 bucks a gallon we are going to take a hit. You dont need new porn to jack off and as much as he may want it,if the credit card is maxed and the check account to dry because he had to pay $120 to fill up his truck to go to work. It aint going to happen.

What works against us is the economic system. You're right we're overly dependent on credit cards and in a crunch those do max out. Now what you'll see is free porn sites boom, but the conversions really go to shit.

I would be slightly concerned about internet access, but I actually think most people who have it and are used to it give up their land line telephone before they give up internet. You can dump a land line in favor of voip easily right now.

Use something like I do with tmo's hotspot@home service and even my cellphone voice calls and SMSs goes thru my internet router when i'm at home. now not only does that mean i have 5 bars even in my basement, but those calls have unlimited minutes regardless of the time of day or night.

my point there is there are ways to use the internet to SAVE money in other places. drop HBO and just grab your favorite premium programming off of torrents or newsgroups for instance.

there's an opportunity that gets created in these scenarios. the opportunity is for discounters. i would think a recession might actually be catalyst to reduce subscription costs to many sites, that in turn could turn internet porn's economic system upside down. that wouldn't necessarily be a bad thing as i consider it broken as is, and i have for years.

[juliansosa]

Do you mean the one that happened in 2001 after 9/11?

[MRock]

Sell to the Europeans You be ok. Jill has always sold to them better anyway ... not sure why

[EmporerEJ]

It's been my experience that the adult business excells in a recession, and ESPECIALLY when people are unemployed.
It was true in all 4 of my video stores for 9 years, and it's been true in the online adult biz.

Idle "hands," and busy minds are good for business.

[tony404]

Originally Posted by EmporerEJ

It's been my experience that the adult business excells in a recession, and ESPECIALLY when people are unemployed.
It was true in all 4 of my video stores for 9 years, and it's been true in the online adult biz.

Idle "hands," and busy minds are good for business.

idle hands with no money are worthless also tube sites have made getting your porn fix very easy to do.Not like p2p's or newsgroups where you need a little no how and Im noticing a new trend started in dec and got one today charge back months old charges and they were in the site a shit load of times. I have a feeling those are going to rise. If its a blood bath that will be good for the survivors.

[Forest]

I dont think porn is recession proof but i do believe it is recession resistant. As it is an impulse buy people dont think about what they are spending as a whole on impulse buys like the do budgeted stuff.

2cents

[EmporerEJ]

Originally Posted by tony404

idle hands with no money are worthless also tube sites have made getting your porn fix very easy to do.Not like p2p's or newsgroups where you need a little no how and Im noticing a new trend started in dec and got one today charge back months old charges and they were in the site a shit load of times. I have a feeling those are going to rise. If its a blood bath that will be good for the survivors.

While I have little experience with today's online subscription model (Only from 1997-2000,) I have extensive, and authoritative experience with video rentals from 1985-1994. And that is my experience with "hard times." (which were MUCH worse, than anyhting we've seen today.
The closest comparison today is video rentals-subscription sites. However, if you throw in the dynamic of the "free You Tube" sex, I can see how it would be affected.

All it tells me is the subscription site model is in danger of serious failure.
Just like Buggy whip manufacturing, when cars came along.
I would think the personal "web girl" sites would be effected very little.

[softball]

Originally Posted by EmporerEJ

While I have little experience with today's online subscription model (Only from 1997-2000,) I have extensive, and authoritative experience with video rentals from 1985-1994. And that is my experience with "hard times." (which were MUCH worse, than anyhting we've seen today.
The closest comparison today is video rentals-subscription sites. However, if you throw in the dynamic of the "free You Tube" sex, I can see how it would be affected.

All it tells me is the subscription site model is in danger of serious failure.
Just like Buggy whip manufacturing, when cars came along.
I would think the personal "web girl" sites would be effected very little.

There is a huge difference between then and now. Back then, there was no war draining the US budget. Back then, there was no fear of terrorism. Back then, there was still hope. Now it is a whole new ball game. But like I said, it will change. It always does.
However, you have been pounding your buggy whip drum for years and it still has not happened. The subscription model has been around for a century or more, so I see no reason to believe that it will die like typewriters or dial phones.
It is a fundamental business model that works for everything from mobile phones to cable providers to leasing a car. So why you think the sky is falling on this particular model is beyond me. Some may have to rethink how they deliver and/or present it, but the concept is intact.