Cybernet Expo 2008 San Francisco Launches

[LAJ]

Originally Posted by gonzo

Danny maybe you can help me convince jay to have an amateur roundtable session?

I will definitely consider something like this... but I have tried it in the past and it was one of the least attended seminars unfortunately.

[DannyCox]

Originally Posted by LAJ

I will definitely consider something like this... but I have tried it in the past and it was one of the least attended seminars unfortunately.

That's the main reason we stopped doing them, the attendance just dwindled. The last one we did was more of a small get-together than a seminar.

[pornlaw]

Count me in. I might sponsor. It depends. But it is my birthday weekend so its going to be a whole lot of debauchery!!

Michael

http://www.adultbizlaw.com

[gonzo]

Originally Posted by pornlaw

Count me in. I might sponsor. It depends. But it is my birthday weekend so its going to be a whole lot of debauchery!!

Michael

http://www.adultbizlaw.com

ANotehr reason why you fit in so well here!

[LAJ]

Originally Posted by pornlaw

Count me in. I might sponsor. It depends. But it is my birthday weekend so its going to be a whole lot of debauchery!!

Michael

http://www.adultbizlaw.com

Let's talk tomorrow Michael!

[pornlaw]

Hey LAJ

Tomorrow is bad. I gotta wrap a bunch of stuff up before I leave for Vegas on Tues. AM.

Are you going to AEE or just Internext ?

Either way lets meet up in Vegas. Come by the booth (#8088) if you're at AEE. If Im not there, tell my staff to call me and I will come back to the booth.

If just Internext then let's setup a lunch to talk.

Michael

http://www.adultbizlaw.com

[LAJ]

Originally Posted by pornlaw

Hey LAJ

Tomorrow is bad. I gotta wrap a bunch of stuff up before I leave for Vegas on Tues. AM.

Are you going to AEE or just Internext ?

Either way lets meet up in Vegas. Come by the booth (#8088) if you're at AEE. If Im not there, tell my staff to call me and I will come back to the booth.

If just Internext then let's setup a lunch to talk.

Michael

http://www.adultbizlaw.com

Hey there Michael... I get in late Wednesday evening. YNOT has a booth on the b2b floor for AEE with Connor Young running it solo earlier that day. I will most definitely meet up with you there and will add your booth# to my itinerary. See you Thursday!

[Bob_Rice]

Sounds great, Jay!

[Hell Puppy]

Originally Posted by LAJ

I will definitely consider something like this... but I have tried it in the past and it was one of the least attended seminars unfortunately.

Yeah, you cant very well do much with an amateur seminar if you do not have a decent number of amateurs attending. And it has to be REAL amateurs, otherwise you might as well repackage it as a solo girls seminar or something else. The techniques that apply to producing and promoting a REAL amateur versus a "corporate" amateur are different.

For various reasons we've discussed here in threads before the amateur segment of the industry has greatly reduced the number of shows they go to. I think to get them back you'd have to do a lot more than a seminar. My hunch is a show designed just around them would work, something that could combine as a good working vacation where there's a lot of fun, and a lot of opportunity to shoot with other girls, etc. Maybe a cruise or hedonism type getaway that is friendly to the "lifestyle".

Now one spin that might be an interesting topic would be the difference between amateur, corporate amateur, solo girl and how best to promote each.

[Toby]

Originally Posted by Hell Puppy

...Maybe a cruise or hedonism type getaway that is friendly to the "lifestyle"...

There's a perfect illustration of something else that has/is changing within the independent amateur ranks. While many of them are still swingers, an ever growing number of them are NOT.

[Hell Puppy]

Originally Posted by Toby

There's a perfect illustration of something else that has/is changing within the independent amateur ranks. While many of them are still swingers, an ever growing number of them are NOT.

True enough.

In fact all of the ones I personally know well actually are NOT. However, most all ARE exhibitionists and would love the opportunity to strip off butt nekkid in scenic and public places for some photo sets.

Again an adults only cruise or closed resort would be friendly to both.

I dont see either happening though because there's no real organization to that community and not a lot in it for sponsors. No real incentive for anyone to organize it.

[Bob_Rice]

Y Not?