Is the Internet a right or a privilege?

[MikeSouth]

Originally Posted by EmporerEJ

I'm afraid I must respectfully disagree with you.
"travel freely by the ordinary conveyance of the day" (at the time, referring to the new "iron horse" if I recall correctly) I belive was the decision, somewhere.....

Disagree all you like but it don't change the facts...driving on public roadways is a privilege not a right

I know of no guaranteed right that requires you to be A) schooled in, and successfully pass physical and written tests for.

I also know of no guaranteed right that you can C) be fined for

Its a privilege you must pass a test, pay for a license and have insurance or that privilege is not granted were it a right that wouldnt be the case

[Rcourt64]

Originally Posted by MikeSouth

Disagree all you like but it don't change the facts...driving on public roadways is a privilege not a right

I know of no guaranteed right that requires you to be A) schooled in, and successfully pass physical and written tests for.

I also know of no guaranteed right that you can C) be fined for

Its a privilege you must pass a test, pay for a license and have insurance or that privilege is not granted were it a right that wouldnt be the case

The debate here is not whether it's legal or not? The United States Rules are "The Rules". I won't argue that.
But you're reply Mr.South falls along the category of: "Ohh Well..., That's just the way it is, buddy"
...and that doesn't make it correct? now does it?
Where do legal standards decide which is what??? Where is the line drawn between whats a privilege and a necessity in todays Generation of necessity for survival???
"These here be my dumb American observations now..."

...
In todays societies & lifestyles, The Internet is and will become a "necessity" & "need" in every Americans daily work and functioned routine. "Just Like Driving"
And if this is the course a percentage of the United States will recur to be able to keep people off line?
Then I see allot Of Internet DUI's and "Driving while Licenses Revoked" occurring thought out this Great Internet Nation.

And what fucking kinda U.S. tax funding is gonna support this Bullshit again? ............

Anyone care to enlighten where this funding will be coming from???

I'll GIVE YA ONE GUESS?

[EmporerEJ]

And if one, was, say, a member of the bar.......

Wouldn't he HAVE to agree with, and defend the law? Yes, I'm sure I read that somewhere.....

Until someone with courage, and perseverance defends the constitution as it was originally written, we will all be faced with these "rules."

[Rcourt64]

Wait a minute here..??? if they wanna take control of the Internet and tell us who can or can't be on-line?
Then why not also obscene sex phone perverts???? Maybe they shouldn't allow these sort of pervs to use any sort of phone communication? right?
No cell phones, No public phones, No home land lines.

This is all they get

Cuz America is looking out for YOUR best interests
Right?

[MikeSouth]

Technically it may depend on how you define a "right"

legally speaking rights are not tangible things you have a right to bear arms for instance but that doesnt mean that you have the right to expect taxpayers to provide you with a gun

by the same token you may well argue that you have a right to purchase internet connectivity and I wouldnt disagree with you but you have no right legally or otherwise to force the government to give you internet service at the expense of taxpayers any more than they should be required to provide you with a gun.

rights are something you exercize not something that someone gives you.

[EmporerEJ]

Originally Posted by MikeSouth

rights are something you exercize not something that someone gives you.

especially the unalienable ones......

[Rcourt64]

Originally Posted by EmporerEJ

especially the unalienable ones......

If they can take it away from you, or charge you for it, then it wasn't yours to begin with.

[Rcourt64]

Originally Posted by MikeSouth

Technically it may depend on how you define a "right"

legally speaking rights are not tangible things you have a right to bear arms for instance but that doesnt mean that you have the right to expect taxpayers to provide you with a gun

by the same token you may well argue that you have a right to purchase internet connectivity and I wouldnt disagree with you but you have no right legally or otherwise to force the government to give you internet service at the expense of taxpayers any more than they should be required to provide you with a gun.

rights are something you exercize not something that someone gives you.

ok, So how are my rights to purchase Internet decide on or taken away or even charged to retain and keep??? they're suppose to be free?
..my rights I mean. not the Internet or the gun or the drivers license.
In a society when exercising my rights has become a necessity of survival to be able to cope with todays advanced technologies and lifestyles, and keeping a roof over my head? and the kids in school? ......hmmm. should I continue...
But to be able to exercise my free rights, I need to seek permission first. and that's wrong.

[EmporerEJ]

Originally Posted by MikeSouth

Technically it may depend on how you define a "right"

legally speaking rights are not tangible things you have a right to bear arms for instance but that doesnt mean that you have the right to expect taxpayers to provide you with a gun

by the same token you may well argue that you have a right to purchase internet connectivity and I wouldnt disagree with you but you have no right legally or otherwise to force the government to give you internet service at the expense of taxpayers any more than they should be required to provide you with a gun.

rights are something you exercize not something that someone gives you.

Since we are slicing and dicing this issue, I take some exception with you on the "force the government to give you internet service at the expense of taxpayers" statement.


There is a tiny flicker of an argument for this statement. The "internet" or Darpanet/Arpanet was originally created with taxpayer's money, and so "belongs to the people."
It is still "controlled" to a degree by the government through various rules, regulations, sponsorships etc.
So, at it's core, it DOES belong "to the people." And to an extent, they ARE entitled to it, or at least, equal access. (And now we start the tier argument)

[ali25extreme]

Get a nanny cam on them....help the employment of others..and have the offenders pay for that privilege to earn their rights back!!!