NATS insecure according to OC3 Networks

[Toby]

The fact that TMM's internal database of admin passes was even web accessible is shocking. Major fuck-up, on several levels.

[Jace]

i seem to recall a issue back about a year ago when bank of america got hacked and approx 40mil users data was passed around the net

didn't hear too much about that in the news though

shit happens, deal with it and move on...NOTHING, and let me repeat, NOTHING is hacker/cracker proof

[gonzo]

If I was a sponsor running NATS I would certianly disable that admin account if I wasnt doing so every month after they did the "our accounting department cant post that youve paid for your license" fix.

Im not worried about my personal information. I dont use a SS# ...Ive long since incorporated and have a FIN to take care of this issue.

As an affiliate you might want to change your passwords but if they wanted that information it has long since been scammed.

Personally I am disgusted how a couple of OC3 Network sigwhores have handled this and Im disappointed in the lack of information to clients from John Albright and TMM.

[Greg B]

Thanks Gonzo. My sentiments exactly. I asked John earlier today what was what as you know. I didn't panic but do see the magnitude of potential harm. The way things got handled isn't cool but it's up to John to spell it all out now and show what's what. What happens next will define the whole incident.

On another note, thanks to Gonzo here and his data, he didn't panic or get hyper critical, but provided data we could analyze and process. This shows that the industry has professionals who can analyze a situation no matter how bad it is and offer solutions instead of board attacks and such. It's how you respond to adversity that defines who and what you are.

Like Gonzo I went straight to the source and asked the horse, John gave me an answer quick and friendly. Other industries might have fallen apart but we need to just listen to the experts and follow through and show the public that they're safe to a better degree than mainstream. Yes, Bank of America got big time hacked. It happens.

[gonzo]

The gays are now saying this is MinusOneBits problem.

http://www.gaymainstreet.com/TheStre...?threadid=8165

[Greg B]

Thanks Gonzo...It's all starting to fall into place now.

Hangin' around Gonzo is like hangin' around Sam Spade.

[gonzo]

Originally Posted by Greg B

Thanks Gonzo...It's all starting to fall into place now.

Hangin' around Gonzo is like hangin' around Sam Spade.

You should see what happens when you hang around the AVN award winning Mike South....

http://www.oprano.com/msgboard/forumdisplay.php?f=50

[Hell Puppy]

Originally Posted by Jace

i seem to recall a issue back about a year ago when bank of america got hacked and approx 40mil users data was passed around the net

didn't hear too much about that in the news though

shit happens, deal with it and move on...NOTHING, and let me repeat, NOTHING is hacker/cracker proof

True.

Just as no business is immune to outages no matter how good you think your redundant systems and disaster recovery is.

The real measure is how a business reacts to it when it does happen to them.

[RawAlex]

If nothing else, this whole scenerio is proof that larger companies should be investing in PR / public relations people to handle their stuff, and they should not get involved in trying to defend themselves on chatboards.

IMHO, John / TMM have posted some stuff on GFY that has pretty much put themselves in an ugly position.

[Greg B]

Originally Posted by RawAlex

If nothing else, this whole scenerio is proof that larger companies should be investing in PR / public relations people to handle their stuff, and they should not get involved in trying to defend themselves on chatboards.

IMHO, John / TMM have posted some stuff on GFY that has pretty much put themselves in an ugly position.

So true! I do PR for several companies. They love me! I get em' out of jams like no tomorrow. One company I'm hoping for a big payday from soon and I can retire for the third and final time.

I'm glad I got a brief chance to chat with John and kept a cool head. I knew I was right to do so after then chatting with Gonzo and seeing this thread and Gonzo's responses on other boards.

This was a dangerous scenario but I see the industry responding to and handling a potentially major fuck up in a pro level way.

[gonzo]

Albright has his own stalker now.
Maybe its Confucy's brother?

[RawAlex]

The first step to resolving a problem is admitting you have one. John took it solidly on the chin by doing that old "iceberg? What iceberg" routine for a while. He picked it up a little after that, but it is still a fairly shaky situation.

To this point, I have had about a dozen companies using NATS contact me as an affiliate to let me know where they are at with it. None of them has included an official statement, comment, or anything from NATS themselves.

Smooth PR and clear communications would go a long way to resolving this issue.

Gonzo, it really looks like a confucy junior on the game there, someone with a significantly interesting past and an issue with, I gather, not taking his meds all the time. While it would be amusing at any other time, it is really a major sore spot right now. Combined with (what I see as) a failure by TMM / NATS to communicate their situation effectively, and you are looking at all the ingredients for an ugly deal with no winners, just bigger and smaller losers.