Will Criminals In This Industry Bring It Down?

[gonzo]

I dont know about racial slurs but we sure did have a lot of fun just raising hell here on Oprano a few years ago.

Look at the alexa ranking from a couple years past.

Im certain some of my public battles drew a lot of traffic to this board.
Its ok though that is what I was being paid to do.

People are drawn to a train wreck and add to it that I was fucking back with folks that were due some payback . . . well you get the idea.

I dont have the time or the energy to do that any longer. And in all honesty its much more damaging these days to state the facts and ask well thought out questions.

Every once in a while you might see me raising some hell on here.
A feller cant deny his roots.

But if you are serious about the legal aspects and getting involved to a greater degree I recommend my friend Shellee Hale's board at pornafia.org.

Shes working on some good stuff right now involving theft from affiliates.

Technology has seriously out paced the legal system and I beleive she will help make some much needed changes.

Its also the reason many of us are watching closely for the results of the Naked Rhino vs. NATS lawsuit.

[RawAlex]

it is also why everyone is watching that CJ lawsuit as well. Most program owners never considered that their affiliates make up a potential class for a class action suit. I think companies like AFF are risking finding this out at some point. One successful suit will lead to tons more.

I don't think you will find a single program out there that doesn't have some sort of either overt defect in their tours (such as losing codes or accidental hard code links), engages in shaving / milking / affiliate adjustments, or purchases traffic / knowingly accepts traffic from sources that interfere with the affiliate / program relationship.

Example, if you run a program, and you pay zango to pop up on your signup pages, you are competing directly with your affiliates and in fact are attempting to profit from their work without paying.

Example, if you run a program, and you are aware that an affiliate is doing the same popup over join with Zango...

Example, if your software has the potential (coded into it) to shave or modify affiliate stats to reflect anything other than the true sales...

Example, if your program is coded to lose affiliate links in certain cases or has hard coded links to replace your affiliate links in certain manners.

My favorite one right now is the "pop over" tour. You click your affiliate link, you get the tour, you click any link on the tour, and the next page is opened in a new window, and the original window is blurred and redirected to another program or site without your affiliate code. If your user has a popup blocker, you could end up losing 100% of your sales.

There are so many ways that programs work AGAINST their affiliates, and each of these methods brings potential for class action.

[Sexyteaser]

Well here is what I experienced the last couple of days. Left a message for Tom Vadnais at CJ and the next morning CJ showed up on my caller ID at 7AM when I answered they hung up. The next morning I got another call this time it was someone that claimed Tom asked him to call me - after a brief conversation not giving up too much of what I know it became clear when I was told they have 10 of the best forensic computer specialist that they are fully aware of what is going on... I then found spyware from CJ on my computer and don't know who spent most of last night trying to hack my computer, but I will find out - I ended up just unplugging it from the router after about 600 pings. I feel like I am in the movie "The Net."

I think the 50-100 billion dollars being stolen every year is a hell of a lot more obscene than the content they are trying to prosecute - I really wish someone would get their priorities straight.

[softball]

Originally Posted by gonzo

I dont know about racial slurs but we sure did have a lot of fun just raising hell here on Oprano a few years ago.

Look at the alexa ranking from a couple years past.

Im certain some of my public battles drew a lot of traffic to this board.
Its ok though that is what I was being paid to do.

People are drawn to a train wreck and add to it that I was fucking back with folks that were due some payback . . . well you get the idea.

I dont have the time or the energy to do that any longer. And in all honesty its much more damaging these days to state the facts and ask well thought out questions.

Every once in a while you might see me raising some hell on here.
A feller cant deny his roots.

But if you are serious about the legal aspects and getting involved to a greater degree I recommend my friend Shellee Hale's board at pornafia.org.

Shes working on some good stuff right now involving theft from affiliates.

Technology has seriously out paced the legal system and I beleive she will help make some much needed changes.

Its also the reason many of us are watching closely for the results of the Naked Rhino vs. NATS lawsuit.

There were public battles on Oprano? Say it ain't so.