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Old 10-24-2007   #1
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Default Re: Comcast Traffic Monitoring A Slap In The Face To Net Neutrality

Here's an update.

Comcast says it's not blocking content, applications

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Comcast said on Monday that file transfers on peer-to-peer networks such as BitTorrent may be delayed by bandwidth management technology, but it denied blocking access to any applications or content.

As the second-largest high-speed Internet provider in the United States with 11 million customers, any move by Comcast to favor or block certain types of content moving over its network would be extremely controversial as it would be seen as flouting "Net neutrality."

Net neutrality is the principle of allowing all content that flows over an Internet service provider's network to be treated equally without any preference. Although it is not law, it is supported by a wide range of pressure groups and businesses concerned that ISPs will start charging to prioritize the delivery of users' content.

The Associated Press reported Friday that it had carried out experiments across the country proving that Comcast prevented some users from uploading content to peer-to-peer networks, including BitTorrent.

Such networks are used by consumers to share large quantities of files such as music, videos and photographs.

Comcast issued a statement on Monday that again refuted allegations that it controls what content flows over its network, but said it manages its bandwidth to provide the best possible experience for its customers.
http://www.news.com/Comcast-says-its...l?tag=nefd.top
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Kevin, you have to read that last sentence very carefully:

"but said it manages its bandwidth to provide the best possible experience for its customers."

A very tacit way of admitting that they use tools to shape the responses, potentially on different ports and types of traffic.

Jace, I think that if you are in a network segment where there are a ton of people running P2P programs, you may be getting roped in with them. The systems in place are likely padding down ALL P2P traffic, and you just happen to have some of it.

Bittorrents attempt to move to mainstream is great, but in the end, distributed distribution is just a way for a company to be able to sell a product cheaper because all the other ISPs are getting dragging into providing bandwidth for nothing.
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Jace, I think that if you are in a network segment where there are a ton of people running P2P programs, you may be getting roped in with them. The systems in place are likely padding down ALL P2P traffic, and you just happen to have some of it.
that makes sense, but I doubt where I am has barely anyone else using the cable internet system...there are only 10-12 houses here in the neighborhood, could be businesses up the road though

I had the cable tech come out this morning and I talked with him about it a little bit, he said I shouldn't be seeing anything different for the amount of traffic I have going through, it is only the big abusers that should be seeing the effect

sure enough, he went up and checked my lines on the pole, a fucking animal had chewed through a segment of my cable lines exposing the raw cable and allowing water to get into the lines, causing my internet to act screwy. he thinks the fact that I was on bittorrent at the time was just a coincidence

he just left, I am going to fire it all up again and see what happens
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This thread made me order Cable Guy from Comcast On Demand.
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This thread made me order Cable Guy from Comcast On Demand.
that is one thing I miss about cable tv, on demand

but we have a dual turner tivo directv, so we don't really need it
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that makes sense, but I doubt where I am has barely anyone else using the cable internet system...there are only 10-12 houses here in the neighborhood, could be businesses up the road though

I had the cable tech come out this morning and I talked with him about it a little bit, he said I shouldn't be seeing anything different for the amount of traffic I have going through, it is only the big abusers that should be seeing the effect

sure enough, he went up and checked my lines on the pole, a fucking animal had chewed through a segment of my cable lines exposing the raw cable and allowing water to get into the lines, causing my internet to act screwy. he thinks the fact that I was on bittorrent at the time was just a coincidence

he just left, I am going to fire it all up again and see what happens
Did you have Du-wayne come out to your house too?

Comcast sux.

In the end Ive had 10 different techs including Du-wayne who replaced the modem,splitter and amp with comcast gear.

The last tech had a clue. The problem was indeed on the pole.
Comcast replaced the drop. A direct run from the pole to the modem as well as the hub at the Dslam.

Shit had been fucked up for at LEAST a year.

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Buy some stock and open a complaint with Investor Relations. You will have the real techs in your neighborhood the next day.
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Did you have Du-wayne come out to your house too?

Comcast sux.

In the end Ive had 10 different techs including Du-wayne who replaced the modem,splitter and amp with comcast gear.

The last tech had a clue. The problem was indeed on the pole.
Comcast replaced the drop. A direct run from the pole to the modem as well as the hub at the Dslam.

Shit had been fucked up for at LEAST a year.

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man, I have never had ANY trouble with comcast other than this issue

I always get insane speeds, I am barely ever down, when I call I get someone on the phone instantly and when I say "can i speak with someone higher level" they ALWAYS transfer me....I called last night at 4pm about this issue and they were here at 8:45am this morning

the guy that came this morning replaced the entire junction up on our pole, he was up there a good 2 hours replacing shit

i have never really had a bad experience with comcast, but I know you have constant issues
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I have generally done well with Comcast too. I have had very few problems and when I do they are usually resolved quickly and correctly.
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