Ray Guhn Case to Depend on Community Standards

[Toby]

Originally Posted by Hammer

I can't say that the four counties they're using are much better than Escambia.

The only thing it does is give the defense a larger number of potential places to use as examples of similar content being openly available.

It's a step, albeit a very tiny one, in the right direction.

[RawAlex]

The only good (but expensive) news in all of this is if they lose, they have a ready made appeal that goes all the way to the surpreme court.

Essentially, the internet in and of itself is a community, with it's own standards and such. Further, the only way to access the internet normally is to enter into a contract and purchase / rent / barter for service. Those contracts can only be entered into by adults.

The internet isn't like putting a sex video store next to an elementary school. The only children in this neighborhood are here with their parents permission and support.

I have a feeling that this one is going to take a long, long time to come out in the wash.

[Toby]

Originally Posted by RawAlex

...I have a feeling that this one is going to take a long, long time to come out in the wash.

The wheels of justice do seem to move rather slowly.

What I find most disturbing is that even if in the end they are all found not guilty on all charges, which I think will indeed be the case, these guys have allready suffered irreparable harm to their lives and livlihoods.

[Rcourt64]

Originally Posted by Toby

The wheels of justice do seem to move rather slowly.

What I find most disturbing is that even if in the end they are all found not guilty on all charges, which I think will indeed be the case, these guys have allready suffered irreparable harm to their lives and livlihoods.

No shit sherlock.

[RawAlex]

Originally Posted by Toby

The wheels of justice do seem to move rather slowly.

What I find most disturbing is that even if in the end they are all found not guilty on all charges, which I think will indeed be the case, these guys have allready suffered irreparable harm to their lives and livlihoods.

Toby, to some extent, that is the point. The opponents of porn often seek to use the courts (and the court of public opinion) as a sort of baseball bat. They figure they can keep using it to beat us all down, slowing our progress and sometimes stopping it altogether. Most of us would be in hysterics for having a server down 24 hours. Can you imagine being out of the game for 2 or 3 years while they decide if what you are doing is legal?

This one will take a long time to wind to it's end, unless the guys fold their hand and plea bargin to avoid federal butt slammin' prison.

[TheEnforcer]

If I remember correctly these are cumshot sites correct? If it's the site I remember they had soem great content. Some of the best cumshot stuff out there.

[RawAlex]

They have very good cumshot stuff, much of it is group cumshot / bukkake stuff. I remember them doing a party at a show (in a bar, I won't mention where for obvious reasons) and that included about 20 guys dumping a load on some coed. It was a little weird to do it at a party, but there ya go.

It is pretty intense content, but that type of stuff has been around on the net for 10 years or longer. Our community standard has been met.

[Hammer]

Well Toby, I personally think you're being over confident in thinking they will be found not guilty on all counts. They were not indicted for running a run of the mill porn site they were charged with pandering and since rumor has it that they were conducting sex parties where the women were paid and the men weren't, this case isn't a slam dunk by any means.