AdultDVDEmpire.com and Gamelink.com no longer carry the DVDs......

[EmporerEJ]

Originally Posted by Rcourt64

Nothings changed. we keep selling the same porn type venture over and over again, all we do is just change the way we show it. "Big fucking Whoopie"
Is VOD dying? Hell ya it is, at least till the next format for showing the same stuff over & over again is created.
We're so busy trying to figure out what new way we can show the same old shit again, that we losing ground on what exactly where showing to our customers. "that might be a key to why so harsh on 2257 issues"

What keeps this individual side of the industry going???
I dunno, maybe it's cuz..
a) It's the only way pornography was been seen, viewed, and looked at for the past 100 years???
"Besides Strip Clubs & prostitution that is, But we won't enter that realm, thats another conversation for another time or place."
b) Porn video graps the smoking gun created idea right when the new innovated novelty hits the market???
"a.e.b.n is a master in this field, shhhhh thou, they're porn distributing geniuses "
But nothings changed, It's just the same beautiful babe managing the get fucked in a different viewing way, VHS? DVD? VOD? Right?

Your words are prophetic....

Allow me to put in a piece of the prepared speech I had for Internext:

we are in a field, where reality is seeking fantasy.
People in their Hum Drum lives, with their dull sex lives, seek the exotic, the different, the fetish.
Everyone's version of the perfect sexual nirvana is different. Some slightly different on a common theme, some drastically different from the mainstream. Whatever their particular flavor, the motivation to acquire it is strong, you could even say, primal. Unlike other desires in life, sexual satisfaction is one that people will go that extra yard, and pay that extra dollar for. That is why the adult industry has the potential to drive, and more importantly, fund, new technological advances. It is also the industry's greatest weakness.
because there is massive consumption for adult product, it's not quite as difficult to sell to a massive, plugged in audience. As many of you know, who have been around since the "early days" of the web, at one time, it was simply a matter of throwing a site up and waiting for the cash to roll in. Of course, it's not quite that easy today.
For years, from the time of photography, to the early 60's we had pictures. 60's, 70's, we had widespread film, both theatrical, and 8MM. In the early 80's with the advent of video, the adult industry exploded, as people could satisfy their need in the privacy of their own home, on demand. Until the world wide web, that was about it.
Early in the "wild wild web days," people would pay $7 per minute to watch what was essentially a strip show at 1-3 Frames Per Second, at best. It was Now LIVE video, to an extent. But the early internet did nothing really more than provide a means to access more material, on demand, at will.

The next "milestone" was live chat and interaction or direction of the person in the live video.
While it's been great,and certainly a step forward, so far, the advances have been basically a better way to access adult material, and tie phone sex to a video image.
In reality, we could have done this in the 80's with a live TV picture, and a telephone connection to talk to the girl. So, The internet's greatest innovation has been basically building a better filing/access system. Great help to the masses, certainly a way that many small fortunes have been realized, but as "future tech," not much of an advancement.

In July, 2001, I wrote an article for AVN Online entitled "The Virtual future of the sleeping sex industry." In that, I expressed pretty much the same sentiment that I am expressing today. It's 6 years later, and the industry has not changed that much.

What is needed, and fortunately, what we do, is the next level. Until you reach out, and grab them by the balls, and physically pull them into the action, you are just providing them with a very thick hustler magazine, and an endless compilation Tape. And I'm not saying that's not a valid business model, it is. It is a way to make money, and serve the masses. After all, according to the mainstream press, everyone in this room is already raking in millions every year, preying on young undocumented, underage clones, of Traci Lords and destroying the innocent minds of the masses with our perverted sexual ideas.


No, what I'm talking about is a paradigm shift. a new way of thinking about this. The time for a better filing and content delivery system is over.

If I say the world "Holodeck," many, if not all of you in this seminar will know that I mean a virtual environment room, on the starship enterprise, that one could walk into, and instantly be in another environment of your choosing. And I know every man in here, and probably the women, have let their imagination run wild about what they might do in such an environment. That would be the end game, the ultimate climax, no pun intended, to the virtual reality sex experience.

Now, we'll have that for you in a little while, right after space travel becomes commonplace, and the enterprise leaves Space dock.


Anyhow, that was part of it. (And it was not the final...that's on my laptop somewhere....)

[Rcourt64]

Ya I probably sound to prophetic, But I'm also not attempting to present a speech either,
I'm just trying to show a outer view of the xxx-movie industry.
& what we've manage to accomplish in a 100 years.
Do I agree with everything you stated? no, probably not. But you did explain it in a more professional aspect.

[EmporerEJ]

Originally Posted by Rcourt64

Ya I probably sound to prophetic, But I'm also not attempting to present a speech either,
I'm just trying to show a outer view of the xxx-movie industry.
& what we've manage to accomplish in a 100 years.
Do I agree with everything you stated? no, probably not. But you did explain it in a more professional aspect.

Oh, no doubt......
I'm seeing it through my glasses..... (VR Glasses that is :-)
But there is little doubt to me that we've been Reading the same playboy since caveman times.....just through whatever the current "cool" medium is of the time.
Until you add another sense; smell, feel, touch.......we've only added motion and sound to caveman times.
And while men are certainly visually stimulated, they need physical gratification. Not too many "Mental male orgasms" out there. Gotta rub it out somehow....

I am, therefore, the savior of mankind.



of course, I'm kidding..... (well, a little bit anyhow....)

[miz_wright]

Originally Posted by EmporerEJ

Oh, no doubt......
I'm seeing it through my glasses..... (VR Glasses that is :-)
But there is little doubt to me that we've been Reading the same playboy since caveman times.....just through whatever the current "cool" medium is of the time.
Until you add another sense; smell, feel, touch.......we've only added motion and sound to caveman times.
And while men are certainly visually stimulated, they need physical gratification. Not too many "Mental male orgasms" out there. Gotta rub it out somehow....

I am, therefore, the savior of mankind.



of course, I'm kidding..... (well, a little bit anyhow....)

Thanks for sharing your thoughts on the "what's next" questions. I think there are strides being made in the direction you indicate, to be sure - which will enhance the industry as a whole. But I have a hard time thinking that VOD is "dying" for a variety of reasons, not least of which is that I believe it will be integrated into the next wave.

[Toby]

Originally Posted by LizAEBN

...for a variety of reasons, not least of which is that I believe it will be integrated into the next wave. (emphasis added)

That's the buzzword these days, integration. Telephone, Internet, DVD's, Live Video and more on your PDA, your Home Entertainment System, etc. and VOD will be right there in the mix with everything else.

[EmporerEJ]

Originally Posted by LizAEBN

Thanks for sharing your thoughts on the "what's next" questions. I think there are strides being made in the direction you indicate, to be sure - which will enhance the industry as a whole. But I have a hard time thinking that VOD is "dying" for a variety of reasons, not least of which is that I believe it will be integrated into the next wave.

No, it certainly isn't dying. It will be the next evolution in content delivery. But I do see a problem with putting a meter on it. Like the hotmovies method of "paying by the minute."

It's my experience customers are uncomfortable knowing a meter is ticking off in the background. It's distracting, and ultimately self defeating.

There will also be a wake up call in the value of content when the "movie side" of the industry jumps into the "web side" of the biz. I come from the video store era, and even today, I can buy dvds wholesale all day for 99 cents, chock full of 4 hours of constant content. And that's a physical product, with physical delivery. That makes the actual value of the content on that disc about 17 cents of hard currency, about 4.25 cents per hour, .078 cents per minute.
Now, that's the reality of it. That value will decrease when the "hassle" of producing a hard product is removed. And somewhere in the world, there are people that will compete with THAT price.
I realize this isn't a popular opinion, and people will squawk, but that's the way the free market works.

[miz_wright]

Originally Posted by EmporerEJ

No, it certainly isn't dying. It will be the next evolution in content delivery. But I do see a problem with putting a meter on it. Like the hotmovies method of "paying by the minute."

It's my experience customers are uncomfortable knowing a meter is ticking off in the background. It's distracting, and ultimately self defeating.

There will also be a wake up call in the value of content when the "movie side" of the industry jumps into the "web side" of the biz. I come from the video store era, and even today, I can buy dvds wholesale all day for 99 cents, chock full of 4 hours of constant content. And that's a physical product, with physical delivery. That makes the actual value of the content on that disc about 17 cents of hard currency, about 4.25 cents per hour, .078 cents per minute.
Now, that's the reality of it. That value will decrease when the "hassle" of producing a hard product is removed. And somewhere in the world, there are people that will compete with THAT price.
I realize this isn't a popular opinion, and people will squawk, but that's the way the free market works.

Interesting thoughts. *files away*

[Rcourt64]

Such an entertaining novelty of a conversation we have here
But VOD "...is still just a whisper on my lips". (Dirty Vegas)