Girls...

[miz_wright]

Originally Posted by sarettah

Ok, while I would agree that it appears rather unprofessional to ask every female that comes upon the board to show their tits (although it is tradition and to be fair Serge used to regularly ask guys to show their dicks) the fact that sometimes, when the poster is also the product, it offers up a dilemna.

Any good salesperson knows thier product inside and out. In order to be able to sell the product effectively they must be familiar with all of the product's benefits and all of the products shortcomings.

When a person that runs their own site (in this biz usually sologirls but also could be guys) shows up on the board it is perfectly reasonable for those who are considering promoting them to ask to see the goods. It is equally important for that person to display their personality for the board to see because when we are promoting a solo site we are selling not only the looks but also the personality behind the looks.

If a model comes on looking for someone to represent them or shoot them, again, it is perfectly reasonable to expect them to show their stuff. How can you make a determination in any way at all as to whether you might want to rep them or use them as content if you don't know what they have to offer?

If a sponsor or sponsor rep comes on to the board, it is reasonable to expect them to explain and show their product to their potential salesforce, whether that product be paysites, hardgoods, software, whatever.

So, ladies, please keep showing what you have to offer. If you want it sold properly, we, your potential salesforce, must know clearly what the product is, what benefits are associated with the product and what shortfalls that our customers might encounter along the way are.

After all, we wouldn't want to rip off our customers (the surfers), now would we??

You make excellent points.

... except you forget one thing: Not all women who post on the boards are talent.

[Rcourt64]

Originally Posted by LizAEBN

You make excellent points.

... except you forget one thing: Not all women who post on the boards are talent.

Whoa Nelly... Whats that suppost to mean?
Talented you are, just in a different direction and if you where as good as April, You'd be super talented

[miz_wright]

Originally Posted by Rcourt64

Whoa Nelly... Whats that suppost to mean?
Talented you are, just in a different direction and if you where as good as April, You'd be super talented

Well, punkin, the short version is that all of the points made in the comment I responded to would be directed at a girl running her own site and performing in some way or another - be it model or other. There are those of us who do other things in the industry, enjoy the industry overall, and like what we do... But that doesn't mean that it makes sense for a guy to ask to see my tits before he'll work with me on projects or deals, since it's not relevant to the work at hand (*ahem* as it were...).

Y'know. Like that I have many talents, but that doesn't mean it's appropriate for them to be shared in this forum, dig?

[Hammer]

For some reason guys on these boards seem to assume that every time a chick comes along she's content.

[miz_wright]

Originally Posted by Hammer

For some reason guys on these boards seem to assume that every time a chick comes along she's content.

Yeh, that's not just on the boards, though. That's industry wide. It's also a common perception of all women in the industry to the outside world. So, yeh, it's a tough space to hang tight in.

[sarettah]

Originally Posted by LizAEBN

You make excellent points.

... except you forget one thing: Not all women who post on the boards are talent.

Did you skip the first paragraph perhaps, in which I acknowledged that it was not appropriate to ask every woman?

Ok, while I would agree that it appears rather unprofessional to ask every female that comes upon the board to show their tits (although it is tradition and to be fair Serge used to regularly ask guys to show their dicks) the fact that sometimes, when the poster is also the product, it offers up a dilemna.

or the 3rd to last para where I stated what "sponsors" should be showing:

If a sponsor or sponsor rep comes on to the board, it is reasonable to expect them to explain and show their product to their potential salesforce, whether that product be paysites, hardgoods, software, whatever.

Hmmm.

[miz_wright]

Originally Posted by sarettah

Did you skip the first paragraph perhaps, in which I acknowledged that it was not appropriate to ask every woman?


or the 3rd to last para where I stated what "sponsors" should be showing:



Hmmm.

No, I caught all of that, but it also bears mentioning that, on occassion, a woman comes into the boards to learn something from the people who've been around longer and have a solid knowledge base.

Now, no one's asked me to show my tits here, but I've also not come on the board trying to buy or sell anything at all. I'm here to learn, and I thought it was an interesting discussion - if someone wants to know about what I do, they can click the link in my sig line, or send me a PM.

I was merely stating that it can be a tough business to stay in and board can be a tough place to hang if you're a woman. But as I also pointed out to Trisha - it seems to me that it's not the self-promotion that bugs people as much (since we're all in sales in some way or another), it's the buggering off when a goal has been reached.

[gonzo]

Originally Posted by LizAEBN

But as I also pointed out to Trisha - it seems to me that it's not the self-promotion that bugs people as much (since we're all in sales in some way or another), it's the buggering off when a goal has been reached.

I like to think that this board is about forming long term relationships both business and professional. At least its how I try to conduct my own business.

As you saw in Miami...I dont do to bad with it.

[miz_wright]

Originally Posted by gonzo

I like to think that this board is about forming long term relationships both business and professional. At least its how I try to conduct my own business.

As you saw in Miami...I dont do to bad with it.

Zackly - I like to KNOW the people I work with. T'nA don't get me there.

[EmporerEJ]

Originally Posted by LizAEBN

Zackly - I like to KNOW the people I work with. T'nA don't get me there.

I have a question:

I should like to know why/how you got into the adult business?
Like most men, I think I'm surprised that a woman not being "talent," would be interested in the adult business.
Now, I realize this may be interpreted as a caveman mentality, but in all the "cave men" defense, we are raised to believe that sex is an icky thing that men want and women "do their duty."

(Well, over here in Amish country, anyhow...)

So I'm always surprised (and quite frankly elated,) when I see a female that is "in the business" without the sexual component.

[Rcourt64]

Originally Posted by EmporerEJ

I have a question:

I should like to know why/how you got into the adult business?
Like most men, I think I'm surprised that a woman not being "talent," would be interested in the adult business.
Now, I realize this may be interpreted as a caveman mentality, but in all the "cave men" defense, we are raised to believe that sex is an icky thing that men want and women "do their duty."

(Well, over here in Amish country, anyhow...)

So I'm always surprised (and quite frankly elated,) when I see a female that is "in the business" without the sexual component.

Basically what your saying is that you get a hard-on when u see a woman in adult industry without actually being sexual???

Hmm??? Do you jack-off when watching Dr. Ruth?

[trishauptown]

Very Interesting ?........I like that one ;-) U should start a thread like that.

Originally Posted by EmporerEJ

I have a question:

I should like to know why/how you got into the adult business?
Like most men, I think I'm surprised that a woman not being "talent," would be interested in the adult business.
Now, I realize this may be interpreted as a caveman mentality, but in all the "cave men" defense, we are raised to believe that sex is an icky thing that men want and women "do their duty."

(Well, over here in Amish country, anyhow...)

So I'm always surprised (and quite frankly elated,) when I see a female that is "in the business" without the sexual component.