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[EmporerEJ]

Originally Posted by sarettah

And your product is? How? because you are creating a sensation inside some contraption so it actually feels like you are touching something?? You still aren't any closer to touching the actual thing, you are just fooling yourself better.

In the end, whether it's all just paper and ink or whether it is just electrons and gizmos, it is not the real thing and that is what is important.

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"The Pop Star Massage Unit. A dildo is what it is, it's just like a regular dildo but it has a slot and in the slot goes the cassette."

(Flo and Eddie, 1974)

You are certainly entitled to your opinion. I respectfully disagree with you.
And, having never experienced it, it's easy for you to say "it's a pocket whatever."
It's Ok, I don't need to "convert" you.

We have created a way to be closer, but you are right. It's not the real thing and never will be. That is, after all, the whole point. It's "VIRTUAL REALITY."
It "being real" is NOT the whole point. Not having direct access to the "real thing" is exactly what we are talking about in all these conversations.
You have the "thing," but on your terms, and when, where, and how YOU want it.
Perhaps that doesn't appeal to you, but fortunately for us, it does appeal to millions of others.
And again, I'm not on a quest to convert you to my "religion."

You do prove one of my points though....even in 1974 people were dreaming of Virtual Sex, in the limited technological terms they understood at the time....
good lord, am I old enough to remember loading programs from cassette tapes?
The two little blinking squares as the the computer performed "cload"
Later, I even had one of those fancy floppy disc things.....single sided, 180K in my coco!

[sarettah]

Originally Posted by EmporerEJ

You do prove one of my points though....even in 1974 people were dreaming of Virtual Sex, in the limited technological terms they understood at the time....
good lord, am I old enough to remember loading programs from cassette tapes?
The two little blinking squares as the the computer performed "cload"
Later, I even had one of those fancy floppy disc things.....single sided, 180K in my coco!

Lolol.. people have been trying to figure out how to have satisfying sex by themselves for ages. Nothing new about it, long before 1974, hell I bet the first cave man that had his cave lady pull a "Not tonight, this thing on my shoulders hurts" (they hadn't invented a name for heads yet) and he had to do hisself by hand, he probably was looking around trying to figure out what else there was that he could stick his thing into to get some action (watch out for the tyrannosaurus rex dude, he looks like he'd like it, but he won't).

And all I was trying to say in all this is that while you poo poo other "innovations" and try to play yours up as something "new", it isn't any newer than any of the other ideas out there. And that was really my only point.

There is really nothing new under the sun, just possibly better delivery systems

[EmporerEJ]

Originally Posted by sarettah

Lolol.. people have been trying to figure out how to have satisfying sex by themselves for ages. Nothing new about it, long before 1974, hell I bet the first cave man that had his cave lady pull a "Not tonight, this thing on my shoulders hurts" (they hadn't invented a name for heads yet) and he had to di hisself by hand, he probably was looking around trying to figure out what else there was that he could stick his thing into to get some action (watch out for the tyrannosaurus rex dude, he looks like he'd like it, but he won't).

And all I was trying to say in all this is that while you poo poo other "innovations" and try to play yours up as something "new", it isn't any newer than any of the other ideas out there. And that was really my only point.

There is really nothing new under the sun, just possibly better delivery systems

Well, it's certainly one opinion....

I wonder what cave man's version of sheep were? 'cause you know that twisted fuck that hadn't invented the church yet, was poking anything that felt good, and looked inviting. (And more importantly, he could catch.)

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[sarettah]

http://archives.stupidquestion.net/sq71204.html

Q: Who do we have to thank for the dildo?

—N.S., Columbus, Ohio

A: The phallic sex toy probably qualifies more as a discovery than an invention. After all, the vagina is made to accommodate not merely a penis, but anything of that general character. Smooth sticks, bones and various vegetation no doubt presented themselves early on to the creative human mind.

Spotting the first human-made, specifically engineered dildo is no easy task. History has largely shunned chronicling sexual behavior. Modern retrospective history tends to be biased, as we all are in sexual matters: Unmistakable images in art have often been downplayed by mainstream historians while lesbian scholars have tended to grab at any dildo-shaped straw. It can be very difficult to tell the difference between phallic symbolism—which was rampant in the ancient world—and actual, practical dildo use.

There is also the matter of ill-understood defloweration ceremonies performed on young girls in the ancient East. Whether the implements used in such cases are, per se, dildos is a matter of interpretation.

(The origin of the world “dildo,” incidentally, is unknown, and of fairly recent, 17th-century vintage.)

The earliest dildo descriptions we can identify with certainty come from ancient Greece, as early as about 400 B.C. Their imagery adorns large numbers of surviving pottery and other artworks, and their use is confirmed in surviving literature from the period.

The Greeks called their dildos olisbos. They appear to have been made of either smooth wood or very soft leather. There are some descriptions of olisbos with straps attached, possibly for fixing the dildo to a solid object for convenience, or perhaps also for wearing and using with a partner. (Straps are a common add-on for modern dildos; the same idea we know to have been hit upon in medieval Asia.)

The Greek descriptions make it clear that dildos were very popular among lesbians. There is more discretion regarding their use among straight women, but they appear to have been quite mainstream there as well, if art is any suggestion.

I could find no ancient references to anal dildo use among either women or men. Absence of evidence is surely not evidence of absence in this case, but commercially designed, specialty anal dildos seem to be a fairly modern invention.

[EmporerEJ]

I saw some caveman era photos of suspiciously shaped rocks before too.
CaveMan-find something to stick into:
CaveWoman-Find something to stick in:

probably had the same damn arguments about what channel they were gonna watch on the celestial Tv at night.

Tell me, why didn't they ever come up with a tv that had split (equal size of course) screens that had two channels of audio output to sell to married people?

(This, of course, is precisely why I never got married...no compatible TV)

I gotta have my Trek and Battlestar Galactica.

[Rcourt64]

Originally Posted by EmporerEJ

I saw some caveman era photos of suspiciously shaped rocks before too.
CaveMan-find something to stick into:
CaveWoman-Find something to stick in:

probably had the same damn arguments about what channel they were gonna watch on the celestial Tv at night.

Tell me, why didn't they ever come up with a tv that had split (equal size of course) screens that had two channels of audio output to sell to married people?

(This, of course, is precisely why I never got married...no compatible TV)

I gotta have my Trek and Battlestar Galactica.

So is this what you consider artificial intelligent sex?

[EmporerEJ]

Originally Posted by Rcourt64

So is this what you consider artificial intelligent sex?

Dude....that is like, seriously wrong.

[Rcourt64]

Originally Posted by EmporerEJ

Dude....that is like, seriously wrong.

LOL, ya I thought so also. up mostly wacko, But to a extreme exaggeration it's sorta a joke on the virtual sex thing Honestly? I don't think "even if the technology was there"? I don't believe society is fully ready for something like this yet.
"Shoot for that matter, I hate even wearing rubbers"
So I don't see myself trapping into anything thats gonna get me off.
At least not for another 10 or 20 years. Im not knocking it. I just don't feel we're ready yet.