Aussie internet porn crusade

[cj]

Originally Posted by Hammer

I think the reason no one is pushing for putting the burden on kid approved sites is because there are far more companies (not necessarily websites) that have websites that are appropriate for kids and they would all need to register a .kids tld. So, instead, it makes a lot more sense for them to push to have the scumbag pornographers go to all the trouble, rather than the nice law abiding and decent companies. Also, if you're going to require someone to do something, do you require the decent law abiding companies to comply with something like moving their sites to a .kids tld, or do you force the scumbags to move to .xxx?

I still think filters are the easiest way to do it and have no problem tagging my sites so the filters work. The issue is making sure parents know about the filters and do something to force the deadbeats to use them. We're always talking about putting the burden on the parents and this is one way to do it.

This is the interesting part ... don't offline businesses already have to meet many approvals before they can service children? A child care centre can't just pop up, neither can a theme park or a video can't be released without a classification. Saying we can clean up the porn and move it to another location only solves keeping kids away from porn, not all the other crap online. There are other things that concern me far more where kids and the internet are concerned than porn, so why not leave all of the 'objectionable' material where it is and create a safe zone ...


Its not about who should have to pay for it or whose responsibility it is or who has to move, at the end of the day the only issue that needs to be resolved is the safety of children and by gathering them together we can protect them properly from MOST of the shit that's online.

I'm taking it to oprah!! LOL

[gonzo]

Originally Posted by cj

This is the interesting part ... don't offline businesses already have to meet many approvals before they can service children? A child care centre can't just pop up, neither can a theme park or a video can't be released without a classification. Saying we can clean up the porn and move it to another location only solves keeping kids away from porn, not all the other crap online. There are other things that concern me far more where kids and the internet are concerned than porn, so why not leave all of the 'objectionable' material where it is and create a safe zone ...


Its not about who should have to pay for it or whose responsibility it is or who has to move, at the end of the day the only issue that needs to be resolved is the safety of children and by gathering them together we can protect them properly from MOST of the shit that's online.

I'm taking it to oprah!! LOL

I think this is a good message why doesnt Joan and Helmy persue this instead of badgering companies for large donations?

I often wonder where all that money goes. Same kiddie porn sites out there that Ive seen for years. Doesnt look like shes being too effective to me.

Add up the donations from the page alone and you will see that there is a lot of money being donated yet NOTHING is being done about it.

[Hammer]

Good points CJ and Gonzo.

Now that you put it that way CJ, I agree and that's an excellent point. Looking forward to seeing you on Oprah.

Gonzo, I wonder the same thing and agree that ASACP doesn't seem to accomplish much although I see Joan and Brandon at every show and I'm pretty sure that donations are paying their ways. Now they're touting their own tagging system and asking us to abandon ICRA's. How many sites have you run across with the RTA symbol?

[Toby]

Originally Posted by Hammer

Now they're touting their own tagging system and asking us to abandon ICRA's. How many sites have you run across with the RTA symbol?

I see the RTA logo on quite a few sites. And for the record, ICRA is now FOSI.

[Hammer]

Originally Posted by Toby

I see the RTA logo on quite a few sites. And for the record, ICRA is now FOSI.

By quite a few you mean like 20?

[Toby]

Originally Posted by Hammer

By quite a few you mean like 20?

No, I mean more often than I see the ICRA logo.

[Hell Puppy]

Originally Posted by Toby

No, I mean more often than I see the ICRA logo.

ICRA doesn't require a logo, just have to put the right stuff in meta. I put ICRA on all of my sites. Works with every blocking program or content control method I'm aware of.

I dont know about this other one from ASACP, how does it work? Do I have to fly their logo? Cost? Does everything support it?

[gonzo]

Originally Posted by Hammer

Good points CJ and Gonzo.

Now that you put it that way CJ, I agree and that's an excellent point. Looking forward to seeing you on Oprah.

Gonzo, I wonder the same thing and agree that ASACP doesn't seem to accomplish much although I see Joan and Brandon at every show and I'm pretty sure that donations are paying their ways. Now they're touting their own tagging system and asking us to abandon ICRA's. How many sites have you run across with the RTA symbol?

Nobody said they were stupid. Sooner or later everyone was going to figure out that their contribution to the war on kiddie porn was worthless. It was a nice move for Helmy...and lets not forget both of their involvement early on with .XXX . Even though they would like for us to.

[Hell Puppy]

Originally Posted by Hammer

Good points CJ and Gonzo.

Now that you put it that way CJ, I agree and that's an excellent point. Looking forward to seeing you on Oprah.

Gonzo, I wonder the same thing and agree that ASACP doesn't seem to accomplish much although I see Joan and Brandon at every show and I'm pretty sure that donations are paying their ways. Now they're touting their own tagging system and asking us to abandon ICRA's. How many sites have you run across with the RTA symbol?

Ever submit a kiddie porn site to them?

Did they get it taken down?

[Hammer]

Originally Posted by Hell Puppy

Ever submit a kiddie porn site to them?

Did they get it taken down?

No, but I've submtted cp sites to the FBI and they got them taken down with no donation required. My tax dollars at work.