Aussie internet porn crusade

[cj]

Originally Posted by Hammer

I talked with an Aussie at Internext about this and asked him what he thought and he said they just tell the government to "fuck off".

Somehow I don't think $189 million is going to go far in this effort.

Personally I don't have a problem with providing better filters to parents and making sure they know about them and how to use them. We could all breathe a sigh of relief if there was a filter system that was effective and effectively promoted so most parents were aware of it. I'm not worried about losing a few bucks because some parents will be too stupid to figure out how to use the filters, but the government would have a hard time making a case against us if kids could effectively be blocked from our content in some way besides forcing us to put everything (including free sites), in password protected areas, like COPA proposes.

Its an election year, its just to get the christian vote. May never happen as he possibly won't get back in.

I still don't understand why there hasn't been a 'kids internet' created by one of the super corporations by now - or oprah!! its so much easier to put all the 'approved' stuff in a section rather than trying to block everything objectionable.

In the same way they are trying to move porn onto .sex and .xxx why not move all approved kids sites to a .kids domain and then browsers can filter by domain. To register one of these domains you have to go through a screening process from a board of parents & sponsors.

So if any company markets to children, they have to meet the same standards online as they do in the rest of their business. You take your kids to a playground or a children friendly zone to play ... you wouldn't let them play in dirty streets around brothels, flashers, drug dealers, peddo scum at all so why would we expect 'the internet' is going to be a safe zone for kids?

Make a domain extension, or an intranet, make it safe, put all the kids in there and protect them properly ... and let us get on with our lives of sin!!

[softball]

Didn't you have some kind of online mag for girls? How did that go?

[cj]

Originally Posted by rhetorical

Didn't you have some kind of online mag for girls? How did that go?

Not for a few years now!
It was great ... but I decided I don't like working so hard.

[Hammer]

I think the reason no one is pushing for putting the burden on kid approved sites is because there are far more companies (not necessarily websites) that have websites that are appropriate for kids and they would all need to register a .kids tld. So, instead, it makes a lot more sense for them to push to have the scumbag pornographers go to all the trouble, rather than the nice law abiding and decent companies. Also, if you're going to require someone to do something, do you require the decent law abiding companies to comply with something like moving their sites to a .kids tld, or do you force the scumbags to move to .xxx?

I still think filters are the easiest way to do it and have no problem tagging my sites so the filters work. The issue is making sure parents know about the filters and do something to force the deadbeats to use them. We're always talking about putting the burden on the parents and this is one way to do it.

[cj]

Originally Posted by Hammer

I think the reason no one is pushing for putting the burden on kid approved sites is because there are far more companies (not necessarily websites) that have websites that are appropriate for kids and they would all need to register a .kids tld. So, instead, it makes a lot more sense for them to push to have the scumbag pornographers go to all the trouble, rather than the nice law abiding and decent companies. Also, if you're going to require someone to do something, do you require the decent law abiding companies to comply with something like moving their sites to a .kids tld, or do you force the scumbags to move to .xxx?

I still think filters are the easiest way to do it and have no problem tagging my sites so the filters work. The issue is making sure parents know about the filters and do something to force the deadbeats to use them. We're always talking about putting the burden on the parents and this is one way to do it.

This is the interesting part ... don't offline businesses already have to meet many approvals before they can service children? A child care centre can't just pop up, neither can a theme park or a video can't be released without a classification. Saying we can clean up the porn and move it to another location only solves keeping kids away from porn, not all the other crap online. There are other things that concern me far more where kids and the internet are concerned than porn, so why not leave all of the 'objectionable' material where it is and create a safe zone ...


Its not about who should have to pay for it or whose responsibility it is or who has to move, at the end of the day the only issue that needs to be resolved is the safety of children and by gathering them together we can protect them properly from MOST of the shit that's online.

I'm taking it to oprah!! LOL

[gonzo]

Originally Posted by cj

This is the interesting part ... don't offline businesses already have to meet many approvals before they can service children? A child care centre can't just pop up, neither can a theme park or a video can't be released without a classification. Saying we can clean up the porn and move it to another location only solves keeping kids away from porn, not all the other crap online. There are other things that concern me far more where kids and the internet are concerned than porn, so why not leave all of the 'objectionable' material where it is and create a safe zone ...


Its not about who should have to pay for it or whose responsibility it is or who has to move, at the end of the day the only issue that needs to be resolved is the safety of children and by gathering them together we can protect them properly from MOST of the shit that's online.

I'm taking it to oprah!! LOL

I think this is a good message why doesnt Joan and Helmy persue this instead of badgering companies for large donations?

I often wonder where all that money goes. Same kiddie porn sites out there that Ive seen for years. Doesnt look like shes being too effective to me.

Add up the donations from the page alone and you will see that there is a lot of money being donated yet NOTHING is being done about it.

[Hammer]

Good points CJ and Gonzo.

Now that you put it that way CJ, I agree and that's an excellent point. Looking forward to seeing you on Oprah.

Gonzo, I wonder the same thing and agree that ASACP doesn't seem to accomplish much although I see Joan and Brandon at every show and I'm pretty sure that donations are paying their ways. Now they're touting their own tagging system and asking us to abandon ICRA's. How many sites have you run across with the RTA symbol?

[softball]

Originally Posted by cj

Not for a few years now!
It was great ... but I decided I don't like working so hard.

A great plan. That is what I love about this business.

[hndsomegardener]

i dont get why people are so sensitive to porn...it swings both ways and the people who work at it are in no way abused or exploited..its a biz


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[hndsomegardener]

there are so many countries who hate to admit that their citizens are darn horny... it actually keeps the population populating..,..so maybe ban it in china..but aussie? hmmm

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