Shit like this makes me happy I missed Internext

[Hammer]

I'm guessing this is Mailman from Medium Pimpin?

The whole Exclusivecash suing NATS thing and pulling NATS and thus leaving their affiliates high and dry is a convoluted deal and one I'm still not clear on details wise. I thought they had a good case against NATS but once they yanked NATS and left it up to all of their affiliates to change their links and didn't provide them with an easy way to do that, they kind of lost my support. I'm sure there's more to it than what I know, but it's still seems like no one is blameless.

For the record, I've never been an Exlusivecash affiliate and am not owed any money so I'm merely a spectator and have no vested interest in the outcome. Personally, I don't know Chris, but I've known and liked Jason Tucker for years, so I'm still willing to give him the benefit of the doubt for now.

[softball]

Originally Posted by Hammer

I'm guessing this is Mailman from Medium Pimpin?

The whole Exclusivecash suing NATS thing and pulling NATS and thus leaving their affiliates high and dry is a convoluted deal and one I'm still not clear on details wise. I thought they had a good case against NATS but once they yanked NATS and left it up to all of their affiliates to change their links and didn't provide them with an easy way to do that, they kind of lost my support. I'm sure there's more to it than what I know, but it's still seems like no one is blameless.

For the record, I've never been an Exlusivecash affiliate and am not owed any money so I'm merely a spectator and have no vested interest in the outcome. Personally, I don't know Chris, but I've known and liked Jason Tucker for years, so I'm still willing to give him the benefit of the doubt for now.

You have any idea why he cut and ran and left us high and dry on the DRM deal? We had some real scrambling to do that was very costly and he just stopped answering his phone after blaming everyone involved but himself. Or is this just a dirty little secret no one likes to talk about?

[Hammer]

Originally Posted by rhetorical

You have any idea why he cut and ran and left us high and dry on the DRM deal? We had some real scrambling to do that was very costly and he just stopped answering his phone after blaming everyone involved but himself. Or is this just a dirty little secret no one likes to talk about?

I remember his DRM project and he came on my radio show a few years ago talking about it and I found it quite interesting, but I didn't follow what became of it much after that.

[softball]

Originally Posted by Hammer

I remember his DRM project and he came on my radio show a few years ago talking about it and I found it quite interesting, but I didn't follow what became of it much after that.

Interesting? It was the Chinese curse. Him and his buddy got our business along with a few others I am sure. Then one day, they just kind of out of the blue folded it. We were stuck with a whole lot of encoded videos, which had been costly and painful to get set up. These clowns took forever and charged large for it. I talked to Tucker who always seemed to be driving his Escalade or whatever it was when he talked to me, more promises of rescue, then the calls stopped. Except for one (or was it an email) where he demanded last months payment for service. Man that guy had some balls asking for that. Really bad businessman. I don't care that he runs some big ass photo joint, he still has the capacity to stiff his clients. I wouldn't trust him as far as the length of my keyboard. I also notice he continually reads this thread and never responds. Where's my freeking camera, Jason?

[softball]

You know sometimes I may stir a little shit, but I always do a very honest business and I think guys who don't should be outted. Not lecturing at adult conventions.

[Hammer]

Originally Posted by rhetorical

Interesting? It was the Chinese curse.

It was still an interesting concept.

[softball]

Originally Posted by Hammer

It was still an interesting concept.

So was the Titanic. But it was a turkey. But it was run by bozos who never even apologised for their mess. It was unforgivable. No different from Ibill and all the cocksuckers that ran that "interesting" company.

[Hammer]

Originally Posted by rhetorical

So was the Titanic. But it was a turkey. But it was run by bozos who never even apologised for their mess. It was unforgivable. No different from Ibill and all the cocksuckers that ran that "interesting" company.

The Titanic was a perfectly fine ship that was sunk by an extremely freak accident. No one could have predicted that the ship would ever hit a submerged iceberg that would breach several airtight chambers and make a ship that otherwise would have been nearly unsinkable, sink.

That doesn't change the fact that DRM is a very useful way to use P2P sites or to keep members from downloading all of a site's videos and watching them beyond the membership expiration. Just because a company may have pulled some shit on the people that used it doesn't make it any less interesting. I also said I thought it was an interesting idea several years ago at the time that he talked about it on my show, when it was a relatively new idea.

Now don't go wibbling on me.

[Jace]

Originally Posted by Hammer

I'm guessing this is Mailman from Medium Pimpin?

The whole Exclusivecash suing NATS thing and pulling NATS and thus leaving their affiliates high and dry is a convoluted deal and one I'm still not clear on details wise. I thought they had a good case against NATS but once they yanked NATS and left it up to all of their affiliates to change their links and didn't provide them with an easy way to do that, they kind of lost my support. I'm sure there's more to it than what I know, but it's still seems like no one is blameless.

For the record, I've never been an Exlusivecash affiliate and am not owed any money so I'm merely a spectator and have no vested interest in the outcome. Personally, I don't know Chris, but I've known and liked Jason Tucker for years, so I'm still willing to give him the benefit of the doubt for now.

from the way I saw it all go down, there was a discrepancy discovered in the amount of rebills that were paid out to affiliates, and instead of dealing with it, chris got bitchy with nats on the phone (from what I hear this is pretty normal of chris)..

after they locked the nats install affiliates could still log in, the only thing that gets locked is the main admin....NATS even said they would allow them to log in and pay affiliates as long as lawyers were present....xclusivecash said no

tucker walked into all this right in the middle and had NO idea about any of it, and I DO feel bad for him, BUT what made me lose any, if not all, respect that I did have for him, was a few months ago they secretly switched from nats to mpa3 across all their sites and didn't inform their affiliates....3 affiliates that I know personally found out by just happening to go to an old gallery they had up and click the nats link and it directed with no codes...tucker/chris sent no warning out or even told anyone before hand...that is some shady shit...i understand the need to get new tracking up, but that is something that should have been widely announced

there was a lot of shady shit that went down in the whole deal, but the bottom line is that affiliates never got paid, and it wasn't even a priority of XC to pay affiliates as shown by their decision to not take nats up on the offer to log in...chris and brandi are some shady ass fuckers, and like I have said previously, anyone that would partner up with them is INSANE, they have fucked people in this biz before tucker signed on with them, chances are they will screw tucker over eventually

[Jace]

Originally Posted by Jace

from the way I saw it all go down, there was a discrepancy discovered in the amount of rebills that were paid out to affiliates, and instead of dealing with it, chris got bitchy with nats on the phone (from what I hear this is pretty normal of chris)..

after they locked the nats install affiliates could still log in, the only thing that gets locked is the main admin....NATS even said they would allow them to log in and pay affiliates as long as lawyers were present....xclusivecash said no

tucker walked into all this right in the middle and had NO idea about any of it, and I DO feel bad for him, BUT what made me lose any, if not all, respect that I did have for him, was a few months ago they secretly switched from nats to mpa3 across all their sites and didn't inform their affiliates....3 affiliates that I know personally found out by just happening to go to an old gallery they had up and click the nats link and it directed with no codes...tucker/chris sent no warning out or even told anyone before hand...that is some shady shit...i understand the need to get new tracking up, but that is something that should have been widely announced

there was a lot of shady shit that went down in the whole deal, but the bottom line is that affiliates never got paid, and it wasn't even a priority of XC to pay affiliates as shown by their decision to not take nats up on the offer to log in...chris and brandi are some shady ass fuckers, and like I have said previously, anyone that would partner up with them is INSANE, they have fucked people in this biz before tucker signed on with them, chances are they will screw tucker over eventually

btw, I just wanted to let you all know that this post was my opinion of what happened from reading all the posts on gfy and other boards, I tried as best I could to put the pieces together, but I am sure there is much more to both sides of the story

xclusivecash affiliates still have yet to be paid though, I do know that is a fact

[Jace]

I often wonder why Chris from xclusivecash never posts on boards, he obviously reads them ALL the time, because every post I make he tries to icq me

here is the latest:

(8/11/2007 5:29:00 PM) NR Media Chris: http://www.oprano.com/msgboard/showp...3&postcount=45 :-D You and StuartD are just maiking this all too easy ... please...by all means keep it up *THUMBS UP* In all sincerity... I appreciate it. And Hey if Tucker can't buy your Sig... can I?

[mailman]

Originally Posted by Jace

I often wonder why Chris from xclusivecash never posts on boards, he obviously reads them ALL the time, because every post I make he tries to icq me

here is the latest:

(8/11/2007 5:29:00 PM) NR Media Chris: http://www.oprano.com/msgboard/showp...3&postcount=45 :-D You and StuartD are just maiking this all too easy ... please...by all means keep it up *THUMBS UP* In all sincerity... I appreciate it. And Hey if Tucker can't buy your Sig... can I?

At least Chris sends you an ICQ when I use to hit them up I would get no responce being I would go to Chris because TUCKER DID NOT OWN XCLUSIVE CASH and then chris would never respond and then mins later Tucker would hit me up..

all I know is that from when they stoped paying webmasters through nats forget the original issue that caused all this I am owed at least $4,500 and thats only till feb when I got sick of taking screen caps and they only pulled off nats a few months back.

[Jace]

Originally Posted by mailman

At least Chris sends you an ICQ when I use to hit them up I would get no responce being I would go to Chris because TUCKER DID NOT OWN XCLUSIVE CASH and then chris would never respond and then mins later Tucker would hit me up..

all I know is that from when they stoped paying webmasters through nats forget the original issue that caused all this I am owed at least $4,500 and thats only till feb when I got sick of taking screen caps and they only pulled off nats a few months back.

I just wonder what he means by "You and StuartD are just maiking this all too easy"

wonder if they are going to sue me??? ROFL

Chris!

[Hammer]

Originally Posted by Jace

I just wonder what he means by "You and StuartD are just maiking this all too easy"

wonder if they are going to sue me??? ROFL

Chris!

Might not be as funny as you think. Since you have no first-hand knowledge of anything you've said and have no way to prove any of it as fact, it might be best to stop talking.