Is innovation in adult dead? And why?

[Rcourt64]

I think a major problem is everyone is still thinking inside the Internet's "Web 2.0", and if we continue this route, I sincerely believe "as if it's almost not already" allot of the Internet adult industry is doomed:
Picposts
TGP's
Pop-ups
Blind links
Free trials
Limited trials
Pop-unders
Cross sells
Thats all olds school tools.
Mainstream is eating adult industry up in the creativity and idea department. and if we don't start looking "outside the box" well... I won't need to repeat myself again.
Gaining the trust of the user in adult department is easier said than done HP. I'm absolutely aware that you HP have tons of experience in gathering and retaining customers. So I'm not attempting to challenge what you say sir. But I'm just expressing my thoughts of how I see my world and it's involvement in the adult porn world.

I recall about a month or so ago, GonZo posted a "10 reason list Internet porn is dying". or "something along this topic" I'm not hunting this thread down right now, cuz I'm busy. But I believe adult porn innovation is not on the top of the major Internet Adult Industries list.
We lack creativity, and we all should step outside the Internet and maybe take a peek inside.

[Rcourt64]

opps I almost forgot:

[Toby]

Adult has always been the first to embrace new technology when it comes along. That's not going to change, and innovation will continue to occur around those new tech tools.

[gonzo]

Mobile has already been unsucessfully tested as a major revenue stream for porn.

Phones are nothing more than a bitrate for VOD delivery.

[softball]

Originally Posted by gonzo

Mobile has already been unsucessfully tested as a major revenue stream for porn.

Phones are nothing more than a bitrate for VOD delivery.

I have never had much faith in mobile revenue. A lot of thunder and not much substance. Never say never, but not at the moment. I think the biggest technical innovation that has really effected the whole of internet marketing is Flash.

[Hammer]

It's easy to be innovative when you're new, but logically things slow down as time goes by.

In the beginning of the adult Internet there was nothing. You had BBS's and that was it. Then along came pay sites, and then picposts which evolved into TGPs and linklists. During that period it was easy to innovate because pretty much nothing had been done before. However, now that most of the stuff that people could think of off the top of their head has been done, we're left with what the forward thinkers can come up with and certainly that is going to happen at a much slower pace.

Is innovation dead? Hell no. Is it easy to come up with new and innovative ideas? Nope. But that's fine with me, because one day when I come up with something truly innovative, I'll be one of the few instead of one of the many.

[softball]

"Everything that can be invented has been invented."

--Charles H. Duell, Commissioner, U.S. Office of Patents, 1899.
So that's that then.

[Hell Puppy]

Originally Posted by Rcourt64

Mainstream is eating adult industry up in the creativity and idea department. and if we don't start looking "outside the box" well... I won't need to repeat myself again.
Gaining the trust of the user in adult department is easier said than done HP. I'm absolutely aware that you HP have tons of experience in gathering and retaining customers. So I'm not attempting to challenge what you say sir. But I'm just expressing my thoughts of how I see my world and it's involvement in the adult porn world.

I recall about a month or so ago, GonZo posted a "10 reason list Internet porn is dying". or "something along this topic" I'm not hunting this thread down right now, cuz I'm busy. But I believe adult porn innovation is not on the top of the major Internet Adult Industries list.
We lack creativity, and we all should step outside the Internet and maybe take a peek inside.

You're exactly correct here.

This is why I've always griped about people who would "strip mine" the industry. Others would say "let them be, pay attention to your own business, they dont impact you". Uhm, actually, they DO impact me as my best sites DO rely on surfer trust.

How do you fix it? Well, you dont really. You just try to work around it. I keep my traffic nets very closed for this reason. If all of my inbound and outbound links are going to/from my sites or those I trust, then I dont have to worry about my surfers getting jerked around....or at least not jerked around for anything they'd accredit to any of my entry points.