Newbie......

[Rcourt64]

Originally Posted by rhetorical

What is a newbie? It seems everyone here seems to have their own idea. We are all newbies at something. Even within this business. Is newbie a pejorative?

Just for sarettah sake here, rhetorical. I'd like you to clarify something in your newbie question. When you ask about newbies? are these newbies in the web master adult side of the industry that you want to clarify about? or newbies just in general relating toward any adult industry aspect of promotion?
I mean example like maybe Joe Shmoe builds & sells sex toys thru the internet,
he makes mucho, mucho $$$ at it, But for the life of him, he can't make the background of his web page #000000. So? is he still a newbie, or what?

And Spaz...If you try to stick the word "diversify" in here, I'll bitch slap you silly dude

[Hammer]

I'm not sure how you can keep money out of the equation. If someone has been an adult webmaster for 10 years but has never figured it out and has only made a few thousand bucks over that time, they're still a newbie, plain and simple. They're not new to the business but they still don't know what they need to know to be successful.

That would be like saying that I'm a "chef" just because I can cook a little. If I opened a restaurant it would be a dismal failure, but if I was able to keep it running for 10 years even though it never made a profit, would I be a "chef" or just some idiot that can cook a little?

[softball]

Originally Posted by Hammer

I'm not sure how you can keep money out of the equation. If someone has been an adult webmaster for 10 years but has never figured it out and has only made a few thousand bucks over that time, they're still a newbie, plain and simple. They're not new to the business but they still don't know what they need to know to be successful.

That would be like saying that I'm a "chef" just because I can cook a little. If I opened a restaurant it would be a dismal failure, but if I was able to keep it running for 10 years even though it never made a profit, would I be a "chef" or just some idiot that can cook a little?

What he said. I guess what I was on about is the fact that so many people who are doomed to be dismal failures but pontificate like playas, have gotta be newbies IMHO.
So, you give a new "newbie" a leg up and it pays off in spades if he/she succeeds, but listening to the advice of an "experienced" newbie is folly. I see so many bounce around before they crash and burn. Some flame out like the Challenger (don't mention the s word) but they were always newbies with nothing to add but added it with great confidence and panache. I think you need to sort out the shit from the Shinola when you listen to opinions. Especially on a business board.

[Rcourt64]

Originally Posted by rhetorical

What he said. I guess what I was on about is the fact that so many people who are doomed to be dismal failures but pontificate like playas, have gotta be newbies IMHO.
So, you give a new "newbie" a leg up and it pays off in spades if he/she succeeds, but listening to the advice of an "experienced" newbie is folly. I see so many bounce around before they crash and burn. Some flame out like the Challenger (don't mention the s word) but they were always newbies with nothing to add but added it with great confidence and panache. I think you need to sort out the shit from the Shinola when you listen to opinions. Especially on a business board.

hey-hey, my-my...it's better to burn out.., than to fade away..

[softball]

Originally Posted by Rcourt64

hey-hey, my-my...it's better to burn out.., than to fade away..

I would rather fade to black than crash and burn. The first is a decision you make. The second is made for you. I prefer to control my destiny.

[Rcourt64]

Originally Posted by rhetorical

I would rather fade to black than crash and burn. The first is a decision you make. The second is made for you. I prefer to control my destiny.

Let me state to the immigrate blunt burning yuppie...

...There is no freaking burn out or any fade away, and for that matter there is no fucking newbie either. its funny when one can slap 1/2 a mill $$$ in someones face, and they're no longer a fucking "newbie". But if he joins a board with his pathetic little porn web links sites and pretty html pictures with flash banners they're just a wasted newbie to run off.

if thats all this thread boils down do, with the final answer AGAIN being $$$. Then why the fuck ask in the first place?

[softball]

"immigrate blunt burning yuppie..."

Now, I know you wrestle with the English language. I believe you refer to the sixth grade as your senior year, but dude....wtf is that? Here is where your lack of education embarrasses you. Did you mean a: immigrant or b:ingrate. Depending on what you answer, the entire meaning of your post changes. Isn't basic education free in the United States? I am beginning to think that it got canned by some Republican government twenty years ago. But hey, we have Julius, so what can I say? Come back, big boy.

[Jace]

Originally Posted by Hammer

I'm not sure how you can keep money out of the equation. If someone has been an adult webmaster for 10 years but has never figured it out and has only made a few thousand bucks over that time, they're still a newbie, plain and simple. They're not new to the business but they still don't know what they need to know to be successful.

That would be like saying that I'm a "chef" just because I can cook a little. If I opened a restaurant it would be a dismal failure, but if I was able to keep it running for 10 years even though it never made a profit, would I be a "chef" or just some idiot that can cook a little?

great points, and I totally agree

up until about 2 years ago I was a poor, broke webmaster, but I had been doing this for 2 years already....after 2 years I considered myself a newbie...and shit, I still consider myself a newbie in a lot of areas of adult, but overall I have surpassed newbiedom and then some these days...it just took me a while to find my place, but I am very glad I did, I work with some of the best people in online adult and I am a part of some of the most innovative products that have launched recently

[gonzo]

Originally Posted by Jace

great points, and I totally agree

up until about 2 years ago I was a poor, broke webmaster, but I had been doing this for 2 years already....after 2 years I considered myself a newbie...and shit, I still consider myself a newbie in a lot of areas of adult, but overall I have surpassed newbiedom and then some these days...it just took me a while to find my place, but I am very glad I did, I work with some of the best people in online adult and I am a part of some of the most innovative products that have launched recently

Damn are you working with me too?