Mike South punks out Joanna Angel

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Originally Posted by Hell Puppy

Pop quiz: If you have $10K worth of traffic and $10K worth of content, which one can you be certain will make money?

That is a no brainer. It depends who is driving the train. Now 10k worth of content won't make a penny without traffic....duh. But 10K worth of traffic won't make a penny without content....ok it might make a few cents but big deal. What exactly was your point? Traffic guys suffer from a huge insecurity complex because they produce nada and seem to have to make a big deal about what they are worth. Ultimately content is king no matter how you slice the cake. Creativity will always prevail. I would venture to guess that those who make content ultimately make the most money. Not to say that there are not lots of traffic guys that do well, but over the long haul content will be more secure. Kind of like investing in real estate. You have a real product to sell.

[gonzo]

Originally Posted by rhetorical

That is a no brainer. It depends who is driving the train. Now 10k worth of content won't make a penny without traffic....duh. But 10K worth of traffic won't make a penny without content....ok it might make a few cents but big deal. What exactly was your point? Traffic guys suffer from a huge insecurity complex because they produce nada and seem to have to make a big deal about what they are worth. Ultimately content is king no matter how you slice the cake. Creativity will always prevail. I would venture to guess that those who make content ultimately make the most money. Not to say that there are not lots of traffic guys that do well, but over the long haul content will be more secure. Kind of like investing in real estate. You have a real product to sell.

If you are talking the present and forward I would agree with you.
In the past you forget the guys sending hits to places like Xpix or spamming the fuck out of the SE's and even conjuring their way in as a Dmoz editor.

Not much cash invested only time and a little scamming.

[softball]

Originally Posted by gonzo

If you are talking the present and forward I would agree with you.
In the past you forget the guys sending hits to places like Xpix or spamming the fuck out of the SE's and even conjuring their way in as a Dmoz editor.

Not much cash invested only time and a little scamming.

Scamming is one thing. Doing honest business is another. You can also sell cocaine and get very rich, but that is also scummy and scammy.
If we are talking about honest business and how it works, I stand by my earlier post. Content is ultimately king.

[Hell Puppy]

Originally Posted by rhetorical

That is a no brainer. It depends who is driving the train. Now 10k worth of content won't make a penny without traffic....duh. But 10K worth of traffic won't make a penny without content....ok it might make a few cents but big deal. What exactly was your point? Traffic guys suffer from a huge insecurity complex because they produce nada and seem to have to make a big deal about what they are worth. Ultimately content is king no matter how you slice the cake. Creativity will always prevail. I would venture to guess that those who make content ultimately make the most money. Not to say that there are not lots of traffic guys that do well, but over the long haul content will be more secure. Kind of like investing in real estate. You have a real product to sell.

The thing is, the guys with the content are always willing to pay for traffic.

Even I have always had a few hundred sites in the portfolio that are essentially nothing more than an "enter" link that goes off to someone else's pay site. There are certain niches that I have traffic for that I have no desire to produce the content for myself, so I'm perfectly willing to ship that off to someone who does and let them pay me.

Now if that were the other way around, if I had pics of "Midgets and Nazis" for instance, but no midget or nazi traffic, well all I have is a good conversation piece.

[gonzo]

Originally Posted by Hell Puppy

The thing is, the guys with the content are always willing to pay for traffic.

Even I have always had a few hundred sites in the portfolio that are essentially nothing more than an "enter" link that goes off to someone else's pay site. There are certain niches that I have traffic for that I have no desire to produce the content for myself, so I'm perfectly willing to ship that off to someone who does and let them pay me.

Now if that were the other way around, if I had pics of "Midgets and Nazis" for instance, but no midget or nazi traffic, well all I have is a good conversation piece.

AEBN has midget porn