Legal Hassles for one of our own

[tony404]

I dont think if you have kids you should be operating a porn business in the house.If your not making enough money to afford an office,then find another line of work.Offices are also dirt cheap and offer so much protection.I pay $285 a month for mine and that includes high speed,its not fancy but it does the job.

They are going to start 2257 checks outside of CA in august it looks like.They show up and say the local police decide to join them for the ride which they can do according to the regs.They see kids there,the kids are going.
Now Im not talking about affiliates, im talking about producing porn.
The zoning thing in this case is bullshit, adult zoning doesnt come into play unless you have customers coming in to your place of business like a video store.

The sad thing is if they were in Lexington this probably wouldn't of happened.

[Toby]

Originally Posted by tony404

They are going to start 2257 checks outside of CA in august it looks like.

Yes, I read that too. And I also read where they'll be sticking to inspecting video production companies in order to avoid checking info for the same model more than once.

Personally, I think any inspections of "the little guys" are a long way off yet, if ever.

My point being that the local Gestapo are still the ones to avoid. The odds of the Fed's showing up is extremely slim.

I think the lessons to be learned here, if not able to have an outside the home office/studio, is to be extremely discreet about giving out any personal information. Never use your home address for anything site related. Get a postal box for all snail mail correspondence. Also, a convincing cover story for the neighbors about what you do for a living is a must, as well as a plan for how to deal with any that do find your site on their own.

Just my 12½¢ worth.

[Rcourt64]

Originally Posted by Toby

Yes, I read that too. And I also read where they'll be sticking to inspecting video production companies in order to avoid checking info for the same model more than once.

Personally, I think any inspections of "the little guys" are a long way off yet, if ever.

My point being that the local Gestapo are still the ones to avoid. The odds of the Fed's showing up is extremely slim.

I think the lessons to be learned here, if not able to have an outside the home office/studio, is to be extremely discreet about giving out any personal information. Never use your home address for anything site related. Get a postal box for all snail mail correspondence. Also, a convincing cover story for the neighbors about what you do for a living is a must, as well as a plan for how to deal with any that do find your site on their own.

Just my 12½¢ worth.

what do you think about domain name privacy protection? do u think its worth the extra money?

[Toby]

Originally Posted by Rcourt64

what do you think about domain name privacy protection? do u think its worth the extra money?

Yes, well worth the money for independent amateurs.

[tony404]

your right but still have to have a valid address for 2257 or your in violation.One way to cut down on the bullshit is to make that info a gif instead of text.Dont have to worry about google picking it up.To assume they will never knock on your door isnt a smart move. Your right there is 99.8 chance you will never hear from anyone but if your not prepared that.2 can be a real motherfucker.

[Toby]

Originally Posted by tony404

your right but still have to have a valid address for 2257 or your in violation.One way to cut down on the bullshit is to make that info a gif instead of text.Dont have to worry about google picking it up.To assume they will never knock on your door isnt a smart move. Your right there is 99.8 chance you will never hear from anyone but if your not prepared that.2 can be a real motherfucker.

I didn't say to ignore 2257, by all means keep all the ID's etc. as required. My point was that the Fed's showing up for a 2257 inspection and bringing along the local Gestapo isn't really worth worrying about.

I know the law says that your 2257 info must include the physical address for your custodian of records. However, all risks considered, I'd rather be in violation of that one detail of the law than to publicly divulge my home address, if I were running such a site from my home. If you search the web for 2257 statement for such sites, you'll find very few that work from home display an actual home address.

A gif image with the pertinent text will indeed keep it from getting picked up by the SE's, but it's people (wacko's, neighbors, etc) that I'd be more concerned about and they can still read gif images.

[tony404]

Originally Posted by Toby

I didn't say to ignore 2257, by all means keep all the ID's etc. as required. My point was that the Fed's showing up for a 2257 inspection and bringing along the local Gestapo isn't really worth worrying about.

I know the law says that your 2257 info must include the physical address for your custodian of records. However, all risks considered, I'd rather be in violation of that one detail of the law than to publicly divulge my home address, if I were running such a site from my home. If you search the web for 2257 statement for such sites, you'll find very few that work from home display an actual home address.

A gif image with the pertinent text will indeed keep it from getting picked up by the SE's, but it's people (wacko's, neighbors, etc) that I'd be more concerned about and they can still read gif images.

Now we have a office but for the first 5 yrs of our business our 2257 was our home addy never had a problem.Also we never broadcast what we do to the world. We also have mainstream sites we can send people too when they ask what we do like www.creamycandy.com go buy some

[UncutBucksMike]

Originally Posted by tony404

The zoning thing in this case is bullshit, adult zoning doesnt come into play unless you have customers coming in to your place of business like a video store.

Maybe in your mind it doesn't come into play, but obviously in the mind of the Ft. Mitchell police and a Kenton county judge it does. That is exactly what the warrant was issued based on! And based on the fact that they can interpret it to apply to a website, they could easily extend that to an affiliate posting the same content on his/her website. The zoning is not about producing it is about "distributing" and making money directly or indirectly (under their interpretation).

Mike

[EmporerEJ]

Originally Posted by tony404

They are going to start 2257 checks outside of CA in august it looks like.The zoning thing in this case is bullshit, adult zoning doesnt come into play unless you have customers coming in to your place of business like a video store.

They ARE doing checks outside CA
They did one here in PA earlier this year. I talked to the guy, and there was a story in AVNOnline, a very fine publication.