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Old 06-22-2007   #1
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Hell I disagree with Hammer a lot oveer th years. Doesnt stop us from being firends.
A lot?

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There is one logical solution to renting an office or an apartment.

Use your friends homes when they aren't home. Just be sure to clean up before you leave so they don't know. That includes washing the sheets, if you're a good friend.
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There is one logical solution to renting an office or an apartment.

Use your friends homes when they aren't home. Just be sure to clean up before you leave so they don't know. That includes washing the sheets, if you're a good friend.
what if your friends like cummy sheets?

could be a second addon site down the road

fuck in the bed

then film them fucking in your fucking slime
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A lot?

I disagree.
I always said you can be stubborn too.

Its ok we are too older dudes making gangster hand signs trying to look younger.

HAHAHAHAHAH
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I always said you can be stubborn too.

Its ok we are too older dudes making gangster ahnd signs trying to look younger.

HAHAHAHAHAH
Yeah, but the teen babes sure go for the shocker. At least I don't have a Grecian Formula bill that's as high as my car payment, like another 'older' guy I'm thinking of.
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Yeah, but the teen babes sure go for the shocker. At least my Grecian Formula bill isn't as high as my car payment, like another 'older' guy I'm thinking of.
If I wanted to look 10 years younger Id just go clean cut.

Wait a sec.... I did 6 months ago.
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If I wanted to look 10 years younger Id just go clean cut.

Wait a sec.... I did 6 months ago.
I got tired of shaving the goatee and am letting the full beard fill in. It's coming in about 50% grey, but fuck it, it makes me look distinguished. Besides, I know The Legacy doesn't agree, but what's wrong with old guys using the shocker? My wife likes it.
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"By requiring a studio we eliminate the most vibrant and real porn our industry can produce and further narrow the field down to the bigger companies with stock 'exclusive content'."


I disagee entirely. What the heck is "real" porn anyway? The goal and the trick is to suspend disbelief. That is how we make our money. Doesn't matter where you do it. People forget we are in the entertainment business first, porn second. When you get the first half right, the second will come easily and you will prosper. That is guaranteed.
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What the heck is "real" porn anyway? The goal and the trick is to suspend disbelief. That is how we make our money. Doesn't matter where you do it. People forget we are in the entertainment business first, porn second. When you get the first half right, the second will come easily and you will prosper. That is guaranteed.

I believe I spotted a
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What the heck is "real" porn anyway? The goal and the trick is to suspend disbelief. That is how we make our money. Doesn't matter where you do it. People forget we are in the entertainment business first, porn second. When you get the first half right, the second will come easily and you will prosper. That is guaranteed.

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see when he takes his meds he can be quite lucid

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I think he's just saying that if the only people that produced porn were the ones that could afford a studio, there would be a lot less porn.

Then, personally, I don't think people with kids have any business starring in porn, but that's just my opinion. It's one thing to work in the business and quite another to be the content. What happens when the kids grow up and their friends show them their mom's porn site? Maybe I'm just old fashioned, but if I'd ever seen pics or videos of my mom having sex... well, I don't even want to think about it.

Even if the family is open with their kids about sex and it doesn't really shock the kids that much to find out, what do they do when their friends at school, who will find it much more amusing and far less normal, start taunting them?
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Then, personally, I don't think people with kids have any business starring in porn, but that's just my opinion. It's one thing to work in the business and quite another to be the content. What happens when the kids grow up and their friends show them their mom's porn site? Maybe I'm just old fashioned, but if I'd ever seen pics or videos of my mom having sex... well, I don't even want to think about it.
most dont think that far ahead i believe

I agree with that statement. When i was doing content I know the last thing that was on my mind was what my future kids (if any) might think if they found it

But then agin I dont have kids
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OK, do you think its going to bother Paris Hilton one little bit that her porn video was one of the most successful ever? I really doubt it.
Personally, I wouldn't run a porn business anywhere near kids. But that is just my opinion and the way I would live had I been a breeder.
However, there are thousands that do it successfully and I wish them no ill will. I think it is their right to earn their living and feed and clothe their kids in whatever way they as parents see fit. (I won't even bother with the whole fucking list of caveats you are expected to post when ever the K word is mentioned, cause we all know that stuff)
Certainly the very last thing the police had a right to do was harrass these poor folks for a by law violation. Personally, I think that is a brilliant civil law suit waiting to happen. And I have a feeling they would slam dunk the local nutbars.
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I think he's just saying that if the only people that produced porn were the ones that could afford a studio, there would be a lot less porn.

Then, personally, I don't think people with kids have any business starring in porn, but that's just my opinion. It's one thing to work in the business and quite another to be the content. What happens when the kids grow up and their friends show them their mom's porn site? Maybe I'm just old fashioned, but if I'd ever seen pics or videos of my mom having sex... well, I don't even want to think about it.

Even if the family is open with their kids about sex and it doesn't really shock the kids that much to find out, what do they do when their friends at school, who will find it much more amusing and far less normal, start taunting them?
call me old fashioned, but I share your view for the most part

hell, I am worried about my niece and nephews finding out my "fucking" past, much less if I had kids
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The possible violation that they used to get the search warrant was for a zoning violation (which we have still not been charged with to my knowledge). I have since gone back and read the zoning code and it was clearly written to address "retail" adult businesses like adult bookstores, movie theaters and strip clubs. There using it on us was a stretch at best. I have since found out that similar language is popping up in zoning ordinances in many cities across the country. So, even had I not produced or appeared in any of the content, but (under the interpretation they used in our case) merely ran an enterprise that produced most of its revenue from "adult" activities from my home, I would be in violation. They specifically ban from zoning anywhere in the county adult business from being in any of the zoning they have control over. It requires that you be in an area zoned for this type activity and they have no such areas zoned and won't permit them. So even if I was submitting TGP's from my home office and made money from it, "knock knock...Police".

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Then, personally, I don't think people with kids have any business starring in porn, but that's just my opinion. It's one thing to work in the business and quite another to be the content. What happens when the kids grow up and their friends show them their mom's porn site? Maybe I'm just old fashioned, but if I'd ever seen pics or videos of my mom having sex... well, I don't even want to think about it.

Even if the family is open with their kids about sex and it doesn't really shock the kids that much to find out, what do they do when their friends at school, who will find it much more amusing and far less normal, start taunting them?
Wow, interesting opinion. By that logic, appearing in "porn" means you should never have children. Is it just hardcore, or is softcore OK? Other kids might taunt you if they saw your mommies tits too. Hell they could give you a hard time if she wears skimpy bikinis and is on a website. If the other kids in the neighborhood found out that you have anything to do with the porn industry, content or not, your kids might be subjected to some issues. As Jace pointed out he is somewhat concerned about nieces and nephews. This kind of logic puts you on a slippery slope of doing thing to protect someone else's children from possible "harm" that they may eventually suffer.

Toby is right, some of us don't make a ton of money doing this, but we make enough to allow us to stay home and be there for our kids. As a matter of fact I used to be on the road 20 days a month and Jen ran a business all day, and we never were really there the way we should be for our kids. The studio idea could work in some scenarios. It would not have in Ky, because that studio would also have been excluded by the zoning ordinances. In other areas I have found that it needs to be in an area zoned industrial and needs special licenses, in others it must be so many feet from any residential zoned area and so many feet from any school, playground, place of worship, etc.

Zoning has a much more chilling affect on amateur content, than I initially realized. If you couple that with 2257 requirements that basically require you to publish your "primary place of business address", it doesn't take a genius to start some quite interesting witch hunts.

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Hi Mike,

I was just thinking of you this morning, wondering how you and Jen were doing.

I have a simple solution for the zoning issue. Move to Houston. There are absolutely no zoning laws here.
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I think he's just saying that if the only people that produced porn were the ones that could afford a studio, there would be a lot less porn.

Then, personally, I don't think people with kids have any business starring in porn, but that's just my opinion. It's one thing to work in the business and quite another to be the content. What happens when the kids grow up and their friends show them their mom's porn site? Maybe I'm just old fashioned, but if I'd ever seen pics or videos of my mom having sex... well, I don't even want to think about it.

Even if the family is open with their kids about sex and it doesn't really shock the kids that much to find out, what do they do when their friends at school, who will find it much more amusing and far less normal, start taunting them?
Tell me something man? if ya was a payed hit man, and you went out everyday and took care of a few contracts, like it was nothing. Then went home to your wife and kids and a bucket of maybe some KFC chicken.
it's all good? right? as long has ya didn't kill anyone in the house near the kids, right?

This is a American creation of thought, we grew up in generations that are taught pornography is wrong and is bad.
Even Pete the Porno Puppet tells are youths
"Say noo to pornaaaaaaaaaaaaagraphy"

As if pornaaaagraphy was like saying nooo to drugs "fuckin' retards"

Sex is not a sin theres nothing illegal about it, it just needs to be controlled like everything else in this country, Because Americans can't seem to learn to control things of mental or physical pleasure for them selfs, they need big brother to tell them "how much is enough!" and when to say say "no!"

Americans don't think for them selfs anymore, they have a government that does it for them now, Oh ya that reminds me...

...Happy 4th My fellow Gringos
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