Legal Hassles for one of our own

[Toby]

Originally Posted by Forest

ya know running a porn biz from a home where children are is not like selling mary kay shit out of your house.

we are held to a different standard due the the nature of our content and I have to say I agree with some of it

In today's porn world if u cant afford a 500 a month office to do your work in and u have children get ready to have some major issues.

You've left off a few things. There's more needed than just a $500 office. That office will also have to be a studio, complete with assorted furnishings to make it look like a room in a home, not like a sterile photo studio. In order to have more than one "set" you're very quickly getting into an office much larger than you can get for $500 a month, and a considerable cash outlay for furnishings.

A great deal of the charm and appeal of true independent amateur sites is the fact that the surfer/member is getting a look into the "real life" of the girl.

Independent amateur sites are where I started in this biz back in the late 90's, so I've gotten to know quite a few of them. Many are also swingers, most have kids, and I'd estimate that maybe 1 in 100 have an office and/or studio outside of their home.

[softball]

Originally Posted by Toby

You've left off a few things. There's more needed than just a $500 office. That office will also have to be a studio, complete with assorted furnishings to make it look like a room in a home, not like a sterile photo studio. In order to have more than one "set" you're very quickly getting into an office much larger than you can get for $500 a month, and a considerable cash outlay for furnishings.

A great deal of the charm and appeal of true independent amateur sites is the fact that the surfer/member is getting a look into the "real life" of the girl.

Independent amateur sites are where I started in this biz back in the late 90's, so I've gotten to know quite a few of them. Many are also swingers, most have kids, and I'd estimate that maybe 1 in 100 have an office and/or studio outside of their home.

Running a studio costs about two grand a month. I had a studio for years, so I have a good idea of what it takes to keep it alive. One thing I will say, Toby is that a "studio" can also be a three bedroom apartment downtown with the anonymity that that brings and you are not in a kid type neighbourhood. That also works well because it looks like a residence. It costs a bit to furnish it, but hey, they are just props and can be picked up from yard sales and salvation army stores.
Having said all that, I know rent locations and that gives me the flexibility of having different looks. Costs less, but surprisingly not a lot less, but it does keep things kind of fresh.

[Toby]

Originally Posted by rhetorical

...One thing I will say, Toby is that a "studio" can also be a three bedroom apartment downtown with the anonymity that that brings and you are not in a kid type neighbourhood...

Still too costly for most independent amateurs. With a few notable exceptions, these sites simply aren't generating that kind of income. They're making far more than they could in alot of other jobs, but they're not getting rich. Those days are long gone.

[gonzo]

Very good conversaton.

[spazlabz]

It is very easy to over simplify on either side of the issue.

But what if someone really wanted to get into the industry and felt their wife was hot and she was willing. The idea that they would have to put out that much cash for something they can just as easily do in their own home and don't know if it is going to make money with... thats just too much.

By requiring a studio we eliminate the most vibrant and real porn our industry can produce and further narrow the field down to the bigger companies with stock 'exclusive content'.

remember, the only thing they violated here was a zoning regulation and even then there wasn't any charges filed


spaz

[Forest]

Originally Posted by rhetorical

Running a studio costs about two grand a month. I had a studio for years, so I have a good idea of what it takes to keep it alive. One thing I will say, Toby is that a "studio" can also be a three bedroom apartment downtown with the anonymity that that brings and you are not in a kid type neighbourhood. That also works well because it looks like a residence. It costs a bit to furnish it, but hey, they are just props and can be picked up from yard sales and salvation army stores.
Having said all that, I know rent locations and that gives me the flexibility of having different looks. Costs less, but surprisingly not a lot less, but it does keep things kind of fresh.

a "studio" can also be a one bedroom apt with a living room kitchen dining room bathroom and BAM u have 4 different sets to shoot in. I did it that was my second and 3rd studios

Change the bg a bit with a few diff pictures different bed spread lampo and BAM u have another set

Im sure u can get a 1 bdrm apt in middle america for under 650 a month.

Go to salvation army and get great stuff for your sets. I did. I started my first cam studio for less then 1500 in sets and equip .

[Jace]

you can't get a $500 a month office anywhere near here, and I live in a small suburb outside the city

last I checked it was $1400 a month just for the office, add on all the other shit you are talking $2-3k easy....not chump change for a mom and pop cam site

[Forest]

Originally Posted by Jace

you can't get a $500 a month office anywhere near here, and I live in a small suburb outside the city

last I checked it was $1400 a month just for the office, add on all the other shit you are talking $2-3k easy....not chump change for a mom and pop cam site

you can get a 500.00 office all over the place down here


400-500 sq ft

and a 650.00 one bedroom apts are a dime a dozen.

[Jace]

Originally Posted by Forest

you can get a 500.00 office all over the place down here


400-500 sq ft

and a 650.00 one bedroom apts are a dime a dozen.

man, must be nice

I would love a nice little office away from home

there is ONE place I did find like 2 blocks away...but WOW it was a total shit hole, and right next door to a ghetto asian nail/tanning place

the big issue here is that we live right next to a really popular industrial district, some pretty large national companies are based 1 mile from me....so rent has gone up for office space around here in the past few years

I could find a place a little further away, but I just can't bring myself to rent someplace that takes me 10 minutes to drive to when I have a perfectly good office in my house

[Hammer]

You don't have kids though, do you, Jace? Or do you just wish you had an office because of zoning issues?

[Forest]

Originally Posted by Toby

You've left off a few things. There's more needed than just a $500 office. That office will also have to be a studio, complete with assorted furnishings to make it look like a room in a home, not like a sterile photo studio. In order to have more than one "set" you're very quickly getting into an office much larger than you can get for $500 a month, and a considerable cash outlay for furnishings.

A great deal of the charm and appeal of true independent amateur sites is the fact that the surfer/member is getting a look into the "real life" of the girl.

Independent amateur sites are where I started in this biz back in the late 90's, so I've gotten to know quite a few of them. Many are also swingers, most have kids, and I'd estimate that maybe 1 in 100 have an office and/or studio outside of their home.

hmm thats odd I could have sworn i started my first cam studio at a 350 a month office and a internet connection with 3 different sets in the office.

Granted that was 99 and rents may have been a bit cheaper but none the less if I could do it any idiot can do it