Legal Hassles for one of our own

[Toby]

I'll see if I can get Jen and/or Mike to drop by and post.

[Forest]

Where the hell is ft mitchell?

I ran webcam studios out of residences for years in Ca. Oh. and Fl and even had cops show up for other issues but never had a prob about the actual running of the biz

I even had the FBI rent an apt across the street from my studios in Cleveland and watch me for 2 weeks after appearing in a front page article in the local rag about the biz

[Toby]

It seems like the way things work these days is that first they raid and confiscate "evidence", then try to make their case.

When is this country going to stop being so damn uptight whenever the word SEX is used?

[UncutBucksMike]

Thanks Toby for the heads up. There were a lot of stories flying around but i hadn't seen this one. It's actually pretty ridiculous how some of the BS these cops say is perpetuated as fact. The police showed up and served the warrant and made us come outside so that their photographer friend from the newspaper could get a good photo of the "pornographers getting raided". I was told we could remain or leave at our choice. I had Jen take the kids and get them out of this fiasco. Why the Ft Michell police deemed it necessary to send 5 police in bulletproof vests to serve a search warrant on a zoning violation is beyond me. Was the house immaculate, No, but dirty in every room with bugs, I think not. Was there damage to a ceiling, yes and it hand been there since we moved in. It was water damage to a soffit in the dining room (about a 2ft by 2ft area) caused by a previous leak that the complex had just managed to resolve in the pervious week. If the conditions were as terrible as stated, and they had been conducting a 2 month investigation then why didn't they remove the children from the start, because the raid was only meant to run the "porno people" out of town.

Quite honestly, I didn't do my homework about local zoning laws, and probably was in violation (I can't say for sure because the wording of the ordinance is really directed toward retail establishments). After the raid and their level of zealousness and knowing the media would be arriving shortly and now knowing that I could not continue to run the website while there, I first got the kids out and then went back to gather up essential necessities (yes we did leave a lot behind). I was also concerned by the fact that the former member who had started all this still had that address and was obviously crazy enough to do anything to damage Jen. A number of cameras, computers, documents and other gear were taken with no idea when or if they will be returned. After leaving the area and staying with family and friends since, we first tried to sell the site to insulate us from 2257 requirements and ownership issues regarding other zoning ordinances. We have since began selling off the content on a semi-exclusive basis so that we could get resettled and get new equipment. My first priority is that my family is safe, but my second is that these anti-porn zealots will not shut the site down!

After reviewing zoning ordinances in a number of small localities, I would advise that everyone double check their local ordinances. I have found similar wording in a number of small towns and villages that I have investigated, and in fact found other programs that are potentially in violation (and have warned them directly).

Thanks for taking the time to read my side of the situation.

Mike

[Hammer]

Some guy claimed he paid $8000 for access to the site? WTF?

I guess I'm missing it, but what were they charged with?

[Toby]

Originally Posted by Hammer

Some guy claimed he paid $8000 for access to the site? WTF?

I guess I'm missing it, but what were they charged with?

No charges have been filed.

[softball]

Many times I thank God I am Candian and live in a truly free country. I shake my head at what Americans have to suffer.

[pam]

I believe he paid $8k for cam shows, in advance, from what I've read.

Originally Posted by Hammer

Some guy claimed he paid $8000 for access to the site? WTF?

I guess I'm missing it, but what were they charged with?

[Hammer]

Originally Posted by pam

I believe he paid $8k for cam shows, in advance, from what I've read.

What a moron.

Were they producing the porn while their kids were in the house? Seems like it would be hard not to with 4 of them and if they were, I think they deserve a lot more than some hassles over zoning.

[spazlabz]

Originally Posted by Hammer

What a moron.

Were they producing the porn while their kids were in the house? Seems like it would be hard not to with 4 of them and if they were, I think they deserve a lot more than some hassles over zoning.

Hey Hammer.. good to see you back man, its been too long.

You are wrong, that is like saying that I cannot have sex with my wife in our own home unless the kids are off visiting other people and not in the house.

A cam show is sex with a webcam running, lots of amateur flicks out there with a couple having sex in their own bedroom with a camcorder set up. I am sure that when they did these cam shows their children were not holding the camera. I can't say for sure what happened in their house but I would strongly suspect that their kids never even knew what Mommy and Daddy did. The ones who caused any damage to these kids are the police who acted like they were busting a meth lab instead of someone running a business out of their home.

of course that just my opinion


spaz

[UncutBucksMike]

Originally Posted by Hammer

What a moron.

Were they producing the porn while their kids were in the house? Seems like it would be hard not to with 4 of them and if they were, I think they deserve a lot more than some hassles over zoning.

I love when people jump to conclusions, in the absence of facts. We did NOT produce content with the kids in the house. If you feel this strongly, you might want to move to Ft Mitchell. Did we have sex while the kids were in the house, YES, maybe we should be run out for that as well! Hell, we had four kids, so there must have been sex occurring, let's just shoot em for that.
Just to clarify a bit, one of the main reasons we did the site was so that we could be home with the kids and not dump them in daycare. We could produce content while they were at school or visiting relatives.

Mike

[Hammer]

Originally Posted by UncutBucksMike

I love when people jump to conclusions, in the absence of facts.

Did you see me jump to a conclusion? I asked a question. If I was jumping to a conclusion I wouldn't have started by saying, "Were they producing the porn while their kids were in the house?"

And in case you thought otherwise, when I said, "What a moron", I was referring to the moron that paid 8 grand in advance for cam shows.

Thanks for the welcome back Spaz, but I disagree. There's a big difference between me having sex with my wife quietly in our room while our kids are asleep and someone producing sex videos or cam shows, especially if they're bringing in other people.

Of course, that's just my opinion too.

If they were indeed shooting while their kids were in school or other places, then I have no problem with that. Then again, we all know there are places where it's legal to produce porn and other than south Florida, where it's sort of overlooked, the only place where it's technically legal, is L.A. county California. Shooting porn elsewhere is a risky business and not just because of zoning laws. When you shoot in a house where children live, then you're just asking for trouble.

[gonzo]

Originally Posted by UncutBucksMike

Thanks Toby for the heads up. There were a lot of stories flying around but i hadn't seen this one. It's actually pretty ridiculous how some of the BS these cops say is perpetuated as fact. The police showed up and served the warrant and made us come outside so that their photographer friend from the newspaper could get a good photo of the "pornographers getting raided". I was told we could remain or leave at our choice. I had Jen take the kids and get them out of this fiasco. Why the Ft Michell police deemed it necessary to send 5 police in bulletproof vests to serve a search warrant on a zoning violation is beyond me. Was the house immaculate, No, but dirty in every room with bugs, I think not. Was there damage to a ceiling, yes and it hand been there since we moved in. It was water damage to a soffit in the dining room (about a 2ft by 2ft area) caused by a previous leak that the complex had just managed to resolve in the pervious week. If the conditions were as terrible as stated, and they had been conducting a 2 month investigation then why didn't they remove the children from the start, because the raid was only meant to run the "porno people" out of town.

Quite honestly, I didn't do my homework about local zoning laws, and probably was in violation (I can't say for sure because the wording of the ordinance is really directed toward retail establishments). After the raid and their level of zealousness and knowing the media would be arriving shortly and now knowing that I could not continue to run the website while there, I first got the kids out and then went back to gather up essential necessities (yes we did leave a lot behind). I was also concerned by the fact that the former member who had started all this still had that address and was obviously crazy enough to do anything to damage Jen. A number of cameras, computers, documents and other gear were taken with no idea when or if they will be returned. After leaving the area and staying with family and friends since, we first tried to sell the site to insulate us from 2257 requirements and ownership issues regarding other zoning ordinances. We have since began selling off the content on a semi-exclusive basis so that we could get resettled and get new equipment. My first priority is that my family is safe, but my second is that these anti-porn zealots will not shut the site down!

After reviewing zoning ordinances in a number of small localities, I would advise that everyone double check their local ordinances. I have found similar wording in a number of small towns and villages that I have investigated, and in fact found other programs that are potentially in violation (and have warned them directly).

Thanks for taking the time to read my side of the situation.

Mike

Mike thank you for dropping by with your side of the story. I know from the past that you guys have really been hassled for persuing this business.

What are your future plans?

[UncutBucksMike]

Originally Posted by gonzo

Mike thank you for dropping by with your side of the story. I know from the past that you guys have really been hassled for persuing this business.

What are your future plans?

Thanks for the opportunity to vent a little. We are working to rebuild after losing all our stuff. We refuse to let these narrow-minded people shut us down.
Since we seem to be having trouble finding someone who wants our site exclusively, we've decided to make all the content available non-exclusively. Unfortunately, we need to get cash to get set back up with cameras, equipment, etc. so here's a chance to get enough content to set up your own solo site or add something to your members area. I've just taken an inventory of everything and here is what there is.
There is about 14 gigs of content. There are 113 pic sets for a total of 10,775 pics. These are either 1536x2048 or 1536x2304. There are 66 movies with a total running time of nearly 13 hours. these are encoded as WMV's at 720x480, the last 9 are shot in HD and encoded at 1280x720. All of these currently have a watermark, so they will need to be cropped or a new watermark placed over the existing.
In order to get cash quickly I am selling it for $2000 per copy. I will limit the number of these that I am selling to 25. If you are seriously interested, I will get you a members area pass to see the actual content. Payment must be made by check or money order. I will make the content available for download as soon as I can get it up to the server in zipsets. I will supply the license and 2257 docs as soon as payment clears.
Additionally, as soon as we get settled and get new equipment, updates will be available to anyone purchasing the package. So you will be able to continue to update if you make a site from this content.

Here are some samples for you.

Here are links to 3 pics:
http://uncutbucks.com/0110_028.jpg
http://uncutbucks.com/0111_076.jpg
http://uncutbucks.com/0114_053.jpg
Here is a link to a small clip from one of the regular (720x480) movies:
http://uncutbucks.com/054_chunk_1.wmv
Here is a link to a small clip from one of the HD movies:
http://uncutbucks.com/065_chunk_1.wmv
Hit me up and let's deal

[spazlabz]

http://uncutbucks.com/054_chunk_1.wmv
careful you are

placing your hand behind her head and thrusting your penis deep into her throat

theres a federal indictment waiting for you in Utah


spaz

[gonzo]

I asked Mike to post his packages and prices here.

I know they have been hassled a lot over the past few years.

I know a lot of us are looking for content to round out members areas. So if your looking they are selling.