There are no more webmasters...

[Hell Puppy]

Originally Posted by rhetorical

This is a last man standing kind of thing. Try running content sites as a full time business. Not sure which would be harder to accomplish, content or traffic.

Traffic...

The free traffic sources are all but gone, that's what has killed so many. It now takes some talent, skills and hard work to make it. If anyone were asking me about starting out now, I'd advise them that if they're gonna do it fulltime, they're likely going to need a paysite or two in their repotoire. That's the only way you can really still control your own destiny.

Either that or you've got to score with something that generates some decent traffic and be VERY VERY good at filtering it.

[softball]

Originally Posted by Hell Puppy

Traffic...

The free traffic sources are all but gone, that's what has killed so many. It now takes some talent, skills and hard work to make it. If anyone were asking me about starting out now, I'd advise them that if they're gonna do it fulltime, they're likely going to need a paysite or two in their repotoire. That's the only way you can really still control your own destiny.

Either that or you've got to score with something that generates some decent traffic and be VERY VERY good at filtering it.

In the content business, most of the free traffic is gone. However, I suppose that if you can generate your own traffic for your own content, you can do well. I now have to buy traffic that was free back in the day. A lot of the hobbyists that produced focussed quality traffic have either quit or are now selling said traffic.

[Hell Puppy]

Originally Posted by rhetorical

In the content business, most of the free traffic is gone. However, I suppose that if you can generate your own traffic for your own content, you can do well. I now have to buy traffic that was free back in the day. A lot of the hobbyists that produced focussed quality traffic have either quit or are now selling said traffic.

Something that I find very interesting is that the sites that have some of the hugest traffic these days have the users creating and supplying their content for them. The new kids call it Web 2.0....I call it community.

[Nymph]

There is no shame in being a part-timer.

Since I started in this biz...many moons ago, I've done full time, and part time off & on, back & forth. Partly because of money, or lack there of...partly because when I did do full time, I ended up making myself a hermit, and you can only be good company to yourself fo so long.

[BruceMiller]

Could it be that less and less of us full time people are attending shows, while a lot of newbies/part timers are there trying to figure things out?

[softball]

Some of the most successful people I have seen don't participate in anything. They don't post on boards. They don't attend shows. They don't belong to this "community". They just do their job and earn a good living. So I think sometimes our vision of the business is sometimes skewed.

[gonzo]

Originally Posted by rhetorical

Some of the most successful people I have seen don't participate in anything. They don't post on boards. They don't attend shows. They don't belong to this "community". They just do their job and earn a good living. So I think sometimes our vision of the business is sometimes skewed.

I guarantee you it is. I met several people that said they are not board people. Many actually admit to reading this board but dont have time to post.

Anti social fuckers!

I think Ill have a contest to fix that.

[jerseygto]

Originally Posted by BruceMiller

while a lot of newbies/part timers are there trying to figure things out?

Yea I'm one of these...

An thats why I really havent posted here to much since I started because I've trying to learn an after 10 months I actually started to make some money at it...See I'm 35 an alwayyyyyyys been a blue collar working guy hell I been at the same job for 17 years with other side jobs while I was at it.....other than Ps2 I never gave computers a thought cause I was always working or training...

Hell I was in the club business for 8 years an always wonderd how to get into this business and sadly enough I got into this business by a turnkey adult website business that ripped me off an took me for a decient amount of money...What they did was sell me a domain name and site made up op affilliate programs (which are free to sign up for anyway) charged me 75 bucks a month to host it...

I had no control or knowelege of anything they basicly created a main page with navigation buttons to other pages I couldent exchange links or even change content.. Then the more I read an participaed on two boards MP and this One I started to learn I realized I got ripped off and started my own thing ..

I would love to do this fulltime and plan to...but bills gotta get paid an the cat gotta get fed..My first show will be internext just 15 minuets from me an I hope to learn alot

[TheEnforcer]

I haven't had a content site for years. I've done mainstream and other stuff over the years. I have a very big mainstream project I am working on now but will likely always be around this business cause I've met some very cool people I count as friends. I enjoy helping out frieds like Gonzo, Dravyk, D-man and Evil Chris. I'll keep doing it as long as they want me to. :>))

[spazlabz]

Originally Posted by jerseygto

Yea I'm one of these...

An thats why I really havent posted here to much since I started because I've trying to learn an after 10 months I actually started to make some money at it...See I'm 35 an alwayyyyyyys been a blue collar working guy hell I been at the same job for 17 years with other side jobs while I was at it.....other than Ps2 I never gave computers a thought cause I was always working or training...

Hell I was in the club business for 8 years an always wonderd how to get into this business and sadly enough I got into this business by a turnkey adult website business that ripped me off an took me for a decient amount of money...What they did was sell me a domain name and site made up op affilliate programs (which are free to sign up for anyway) charged me 75 bucks a month to host it...

I had no control or knowelege of anything they basicly created a main page with navigation buttons to other pages I couldent exchange links or even change content.. Then the more I read an participaed on two boards MP and this One I started to learn I realized I got ripped off and started my own thing ..

I would love to do this fulltime and plan to...but bills gotta get paid an the cat gotta get fed..My first show will be internext just 15 minuets from me an I hope to learn alot

Dial it back about 10 years and I am right there with you. I was a welder for International Truck & Engine (aka International Navistar/International Harvester)
I got into adult not knowing a fucking scrap, 10 years later it pays my bills, allows me to spend lots of time with my family and I have met some truly incredible people.

I never considered myself a webmaster though, not even when I was making sick money with my own paysites.. to me the term webmaster has a very specific definition and I can only think of 1 or 2 people in this industry who fit that definition.



spaz

[Rcourt64]

Originally Posted by BruceMiller

Could it be that less and less of us full time people are attending shows, while a lot of newbies/part timers are there trying to figure things out?

Cha-Ching