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Old 05-11-2007   #1
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I think over 21 is not a bad idea to tell you the truth
It would go a long way in clearing up the perception that all adult sites are preying on the young and foolish.
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Let me get this straight. She is saying a girl of 18 is adult enough to give up her life for her country, or in most cases for the political gain of someone elses agenda, but not to give up her cherry for a few bucks?
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Let me get this straight. She is saying a girl of 18 is adult enough to give up her life for her country, or in most cases for the political gain of someone elses agenda, but not to give up her cherry for a few bucks?
I disagree most 18 yr olds arent mature enough to realize the longterm ramifications of what they are doing. Its too young it should be 21.
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I disagree most 18 yr olds arent mature enough to realize the longterm ramifications of what they are doing. Its too young it should be 21.
Then don't you think it should be 21 for everything?

And for both females & males?
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Then don't you think it should be 21 for everything?

And for both females & males?
Yes I do
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Would suit me fine if 21 were the universal age of adulthood for everyhing.

Forget naked pictures and dancing at titty bars. Let's talk voting, military service, drinking, the whole 9 yards. Make things like driving probationary.

I know I was lucky to make it to 21 due to some of the stupid shit I did at earlier ages.
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Now with all that said, regarding the topic at hand.... I'd say I've had an equal amount of pain from models over 21 as those under 21. And we've shot more over 21's than we have under's.

We always do 100% disclosure before we take the first pic. It can almost seem like we're trying to talk them out of it. We intentionally try to make them think about things like what happens when your family and friends find the pics? We also point out the internet is forever, years down the road you may be married with a kid and someone finds it. Or you graduate school and an employer finds the pics from years earlier.

We've been around and shooting long enough that all of those scenarios have come to be.

The unfortunate reality is regardless of age, the models aren't seeing past that quick buck for a few hours work. They'll listen, they'll say they understand, but they'll take the chance. And they often come back whining when it happens.
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Would suit me fine if 21 were the universal age of adulthood for everyhing.

Forget naked pictures and dancing at titty bars. Let's talk voting, military service, drinking, the whole 9 yards. Make things like driving probationary.

I know I was lucky to make it to 21 due to some of the stupid shit I did at earlier ages.
I agree 18 is too young still a kid and especially to go to war.
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Would suit me fine if 21 were the universal age of adulthood for everyhing.

Forget naked pictures and dancing at titty bars. Let's talk voting, military service, drinking, the whole 9 yards. Make things like driving probationary.

I know I was lucky to make it to 21 due to some of the stupid shit I did at earlier ages.

I'm playing Devil's advocate here......

Then wouldn't that make the parents legally responsible for them until the age of 21?

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I'm not saying I disagree with this, I just wish they would pick one age, and stick with it...not have one age legal for this, and a different age legal for something else.
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It would go a long way in clearing up the perception that all adult sites are preying on the young and foolish.
yes it would
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If 18 is old enough to murder people, it's damn sure old enough to make decisions for themselves. If not, then we need to raise the minimum age to join the military to 21 as well.
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She can decide to get married, enter into contracts, etc etc but she can't decide to have sex on camera? Give me a break.
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