Simpleminded Surfmasters need to know ?

[softball]

Originally Posted by spazlabz

ummmm... affiliate marketing is the most important part of my job. That and having good sites that convert, here is a piece of an ICQ conversation I had with an affiliate of ours today... if this sounds like spam it aint, it is me pointing out that you do not have to be a stud to break even (certain personal info of this affiliate has been censored to protect his privacy)

anon affiliate (10:28:23 17/03/2007)
how many active membrs you have?

ME - aka spazlabz (10:28:46 17/03/2007)
are you asking me how good our recurring is?

anon affiliate (10:29:32 17/03/2007)
i thing how many membrs, who realy promote you. I think you have aprox 4000 membrs but how many realy work

anon affiliate (10:29:55 17/03/2007)
becouse you have very good ratio

ME - aka spazlabz (10:31:18 17/03/2007)
wow, that is a hard question to answer... we do have quite a few webmasters promoting us but i am not really sure how many I would say are aggressively pushing our sites... part of that responsibility is ours... we need to provide the affiliates more tools and we are working on that.
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and thank you, yes our sites do convert very well I wish more people knew that


He went on to tell me how much money he made and that is not something I would divulge here, but he is doing quite a bit better then breaking even and I actually hear stuff like that quite often. There is money to be made as an affiliate and you don't need to be a guru to do it


spaz

I would point out that for many affiliates breaking even is pretty easy to do since their investment is very little. So all of the above is really just ink.

edit: for it to make any sense at all, you should post some amounts. Because we have no idea who it is, there is no privacy issue. This post is useless without numbers.

[gonzo]

Point of the post was specifically about pay per click Search Engine traffic. Or at least my repsonse was. And you better be a goddamn stud if you want to play in that game.

[Rcourt64]

Originally Posted by gonzo

Point of the post was specifically about pay per click Search Engine traffic. Or at least my repsonse was. And you better be a goddamn stud if you want to play in that game.

what kind of stud???
So my $20 hookers ain't gonna qualify me in the stud section?

[Rcourt64]

Originally Posted by rhetorical

I would point out that for many affiliates breaking even is pretty easy to do since their investment is very little. So all of the above is really just ink.

with that said, You mean since it's so cheap of an investment, then also it must be very little the return?

[softball]

Originally Posted by Rcourt64

with that said, You mean since it's so cheap of an investment, then also it must be very little the return?

No, I mean breaking even is not a major achievment if you invest very little. How many businesses can you get into for nothing? Hell even Amway will sell you supplies.
Maybe we should be charging for hosted galleries so there is an investment necessary if you want to play. It might cut down on the numbers, but those who sign up would be serious and it would cut down their competition from all the traffic rats who don't have a pot to piss in. Good for everyone. Whaddaya think?

[Rcourt64]

Originally Posted by rhetorical

No, I mean breaking even is not a major achievment if you invest very little. How many businesses can you get into for nothing? Hell even Amway will sell you supplies.
Maybe we should be charging for hosted galleries so there is an investment necessary if you want to play. It might cut down on the numbers, but those who sign up would be serious and it would cut down their competition from all the traffic rats who don't have a pot to piss in. Good for everyone. Whaddaya think?

Thats sounds a bit drastic of a quick answer solution, Maybe the way it would work is the more you sale for a specific sponsor, the more access your aloud to better content. I see a few that do this now,
it's a good way of controlling all the free stuff out there.
"Ya don't sell, well ya don't get anymore free promo stuff".
But then if it was like this, then I would have a shitload of blank pages online lol.
Your going towards another direction with this topic though,

[softball]

Originally Posted by Rcourt64

Thats sounds a bit drastic of a quick answer solution, Maybe the way it would work is the more you sale for a specific sponsor, the more access your aloud to better content. I see a few that do this now,
it's a good way of controlling all the free stuff out there.
"Ya don't sell, well ya don't get anymore free promo stuff".
But then if it was like this, then I would have a shitload of blank pages online lol.
Your going towards another direction with this topic though,

I like lots of blank pages, actually.

[Rcourt64]

How many of you are actually using PPC techniques to sell your products?
please? someone?

[helix]

@Rcourt64 - Check your ICQ bud

[Toby]

Originally Posted by Rcourt64

How many of you are actually using PPC techniques to sell your products?
please? someone?

I took a look at Adwords, Overture, etc. a couple of years ago. I ran some numbers for a couple of my top selling programs using figures from my stats for average income per sale, conversion ratios etc. it was pretty clear that the conversion ratios would have to be significantly better to make it worth the extra work to manage PPC campaigns to keep the click cost at an optimum level.