Shitty Assed Sponsors

[Rcourt64]

Originally Posted by rhetorical

I believe the single most telling way to judge any site is by their retention.

When u say retention, I assume you mean retaining surfer on my sites?
Well retention means content, Content means bandwidth and space, Bandwidth and space means $$$, and $$$ means I dont got none..LOL
I think the idea is to get the surfer off my site as fast as possible into my sponsors arms.
I don't need them freeloading and jacking off to the content I already offer. If this is what they what to do? Then do it at the sponsors expense, on they're free galleries. Is it my fault that the average surfer get his rocks off on a few pictures or some free clip previews? therefore they're not having to purchase nothing. This thread was a grip poll about sponsors, Well my biggest grip is they except surfmaster to easily sign up and have all the free porn they want.

[softball]

Originally Posted by Rcourt64

When u say retention, I assume you mean retaining surfer on my sites?
Well retention means content, Content means bandwidth and space, Bandwidth and space means $$$, and $$$ means I dont got none..LOL
I think the idea is to get the surfer off my site as fast as possible into my sponsors arms.
I don't need them freeloading and jacking off to the content I already offer. If this is what they what to do? Then do it at the sponsors expense, on they're free galleries. Is it my fault that the average surfer get his rocks off on a few pictures or some free clip previews? therefore they're not having to purchase nothing. This thread was a grip poll about sponsors, Well my biggest grip is they except surfmaster to easily sign up and have all the free porn they want.

I actually meant rebilling on the sponsors content site.

[Rcourt64]

thats cool, I still got to blab all the shit I wanted to say anyway..LOL

[Hell Puppy]

Both sides gotta do their thing.

As an affiliate your job is always to garner traffic. There's lots of ways to do it and HOW you do it will influence your conversions. So also part of your job needs to be to understand your traffic and how to filter it to a sponsor that is offering something that surfer might be interested in. If you've done that, they need to close the deal. If they cant, you need to send your traffic elsewhere.

As a sponsor, your job is to separate the surfer from his wallet, you're the closer. On the sponsor side, lots of things influence it as well....tour quality and psychology, number of samples, price point, trials or no trials. The sponsor must find the right balance of getting the surfer to signup within Visa's limitations and still make enough profit to share some with the affiliate.

I dont know of ANYTHING that converts worth a crap totally blind these days. Best tour in the world with a free signup still needs some minimal filtering in order for the traffic to be profitable.

[gonzo]

I will have to tack on that there are some sponsors I have never made a penny with like Russ.

Silvercash comes to mind as a long term sponsor that I still continue to send traffic too. I have never made a sale with Lightspeed Cash either.

Those are 2 long term programs that come directly to mind.

However that is not to say that I think these programs are being dishonest or stealing. I dont think my traffic is a good match for they way they close the sales. Or maybe the people that come to my sites arent interested in what they have to sell.

The list of other newer programs is quite a bit longer. Its good that we are all comparing notes though. Maybe one of these program reps or owners wants to stick their head in here for some constructive words.

Maybe we should make a list.

[Hell Puppy]

Originally Posted by gonzo

I will have to tack on that there are some sponsors I have never made a penny with like Russ.

Silvercash comes to mind as a long term sponsor that I still continue to send traffic too. I have never made a sale with Lightspeed Cash either.

Those are 2 long term programs that come directly to mind.

However that is not to say that I think these programs are being dishonest or stealing. I dont think my traffic is a good match for they way they close the sales. Or maybe the people that come to my sites arent interested in what they have to sell.

The list of other newer programs is quite a bit longer. Its good that we are all comparing notes though. Maybe one of these program reps or owners wants to stick their head in here for some constructive words.

Maybe we should make a list.

Yup, and as you know although I dont do much with them these days, I made serious bank off of Tawnee Stone. Heh...I could've easily named a car or two "Tawnee" based on those checks while she was hot. I just never found that "next" lightspeed girl that I could do it that effortlessly with.

Silvercash on the other hand, I've never sent anything to. Nothing against them, just dont know them. They usually have big presence at the shows and such, but that's all I know. Have never seen them around on any of the boards I'm on. And with no other recommendations, I tend to send my traffic to folks I know a little bit.

[softball]

Originally Posted by Hell Puppy

Yup, and as you know although I dont do much with them these days, I made serious bank off of Tawnee Stone. Heh...I could've easily named a car or two "Tawnee" based on those checks while she was hot. I just never found that "next" lightspeed girl that I could do it that effortlessly with.

Silvercash on the other hand, I've never sent anything to. Nothing against them, just dont know them. They usually have big presence at the shows and such, but that's all I know. Have never seen them around on any of the boards I'm on. And with no other recommendations, I tend to send my traffic to folks I know a little bit.

So what are we talking about? Two cars...good cars..about 80K a year? Just curious.