Shitty Assed Sponsors

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Originally Posted by Rcourt64

ok I agree, But This high converting hotcakes site? How did it get this way? to be able to watch sales drop, there has to be some.
I remember a cam sponsor I am promoting and sales went off like crazy make a few bucks with them, And all of a sudden 'puff' cold turkey dead stop on sales? and its been that way for months now, the reason I originally obtained the sales was because it was traffic I create. Nothing bought or traded. Then when I began to seek traffic threw other means and sources is when is when the sales died. I filter, filter, filter, But it's still hard, and I can't figure it out.

Got me on that one. However, sometimes sponsors can suffer like any other business. There may be some stiff new competition that is hurting sales. Any number of reasons. I think if a sponsor doesn't work for you, then move on to some place that does.

[Rcourt64]

Originally Posted by rhetorical

Got me on that one. However, sometimes sponsors can suffer like any other business. There may be some stiff new competition that is hurting sales. Any number of reasons. I think if a sponsor doesn't work for you, then move on to some place that does.

Well Dang Man, This can go either way? Where does one find the difference between which is the one to switch? Who do u blame when sales drop?
is it the traffic that ones bringing in? or is it the sponsor that went to shit?
Dude? I don't shit money to be able to continue experimenting like that? lol
I mean it takes money to make money, but limits have to be set. and another thing is when dealing with sponsors is which way to go? sales suck in revshare but it suppose to be the long time investment idea? or the webmaster that likes the ppc concept cause he knows the sites gonna be trash in a year anyway?

Sales in porn? are you still generating them? I hear people who have pages with PR7 and show shit sales according to them.
http://www.cozycampus.com/theforum/s...threadid=24739

I dunno rhetorical but I believe maybe there is no more porn to sell on the Internet, not with all the free content the sponsor offer and how easy it is to obtain a affiliate membership now. All I need is a free hosted url and know how to cut copy and paste, and away one goes with tons of free porn content. I recently discovered this site which offers hardlink trades, And I was astonished at some of the pages people offer to trade with, I'm talking PR 3, 4 and 5's and they look like garbage ass linked bannered nasty looking pages. I want understood here, I use PR loosely cause its whats popular now in showing examples. Alexis would be a better example. But I just wanted to demonstrate how porn is not much for sale anymore.

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Originally Posted by Rcourt64

Well Dang Man, This can go either way? Where does one find the difference between which is the one to switch? Who do u blame when sales drop?
is it the traffic that ones bringing in? or is it the sponsor that went to shit?
Dude? I don't shit money to be able to continue experimenting like that? lol
I mean it takes money to make money, but limits have to be set. and another thing is when dealing with sponsors is which way to go? sales suck in revshare but it suppose to be the long time investment idea? or the webmaster that likes the ppc concept cause he knows the sites gonna be trash in a year anyway?

Sales in porn? are you still generating them? I hear people who have pages with PR7 and show shit sales according to them.
http://www.cozycampus.com/theforum/s...threadid=24739

I dunno rhetorical but I believe maybe there is no more porn to sell on the Internet, not with all the free content the sponsor offer and how easy it is to obtain a affiliate membership now. All I need is a free hosted url and know how to cut copy and paste, and away one goes with tons of free porn content. I recently discovered this site which offers hardlink trades, And I was astonished at some of the pages people offer to trade with, I'm talking PR 3, 4 and 5's and they look like garbage ass linked bannered nasty looking pages. I want understood here, I use PR loosely cause its whats popular now in showing examples. Alexis would be a better example. But I just wanted to demonstrate how porn is not much for sale anymore.

I think there is still lots of porn to sell. There was a scientist, quite a learned fellow, in the 19th Century that claimed that all scientific discoveries had been made. We knew it all. Well obviously he was well wrong. There is still lots of porn to sell. Admittedly it is a tough market with all the free stuff floating around. But there is still a large fan base that doesn't mind paying and doesn't want to spend all his time scrounging for free stuff. Those are our customers. Find them, and you have the Holy Grail of porn.
As for the PR and Alexa, they can be taken with a grain of salt. I do find Alexa useful for evaluating free sites like this board, for instance, but shite for pay sites.

[Jace]

*checks statsremote all time tab*

RealSexCash.com - 0:6314

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I would like to say that this is the most informative thread on Oprano in awhile. More of these business threads would be very useful.

[gonzo]

Originally Posted by rhetorical

I would like to say that this is the most informative thread on Oprano in awhile. More of these business threads would be very useful.

I agree and I have my 2 cents worth after I can read whats been said here so far.

Quick reply is that it may more effective to presell the site but its the sponsors site to make sure they retain.

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Originally Posted by gonzo

I agree and I have my 2 cents worth after I can read whats been said here so far.

Quick reply is that it may more effective to presell the site but its the sponsors site to make sure they retain.

I believe the single most telling way to judge any site is by their retention.

[Robert]

"Hogwash rhetorical, Its not my job to do the sale..."

Huh? Of course it is.

"Put thats the secret to being a good salesman isn't it? to convince the customer that even though he came in looking for chocolate, vanilla is better."

If they're looking for chocolate, sell them chocolate. If they like it, they'll keep coming back to you for more chocolate. Just make all the selections readily available, chocolate, vanilla, etc. You don't need to convince them they're looking for something you want to sell, just make it easy and convenient for them to find what it is they want to buy.

"...it may be my responsibility to presell the site but its the sponsors site to make sure they retain."

Yes.

Just my 2 pennies.