Slick today on gfy

[LadyMischief]

Originally Posted by rhetorical

You can write anything you like into a tos. Does not make it legal just because you say so. Peaches, as you are a pornographer your defense of this action seems more personal than professional.

A point I mentioned before. Terms of service cannot force you to break the law. Think of this example.

If you have a contract with someone else for them to kill that person, it may be a legally "binding" contract with the legalese, but could someone truly enforce a contract to break a law? If there are privacy laws involved (and that hasn't been confirmed or denied yet), no TOS in the world could force someone to break the law to comply.

[Peaches]

LOL, Rhetorical is still posting to me? Dude, you've been on IGNORE for WEEKS. Grasp that concept, please.

And LM, yes, TOS can supercede the law in many jurisdictions. I've said this MANY times before. I signed a contract with my HOA that says I can't paint my house pink or they'll fine me and put a lien on my house. Or they can come and paint it, charge me for it, and put a lien on my house. It is NOT illegal in GA to paint a house pink. But a contract CAN supercede laws. Not all of them, but it's done - daily.

[tony404]

Originally Posted by Peaches

LOL, Rhetorical is still posting to me? Dude, you've been on IGNORE for WEEKS. Grasp that concept, please.

And LM, yes, TOS can supercede the law in many jurisdictions. I've said this MANY times before. I signed a contract with my HOA that says I can't paint my house pink or they'll fine me and put a lien on my house. Or they can come and paint it, charge me for it, and put a lien on my house. It is NOT illegal in GA to paint a house pink. But a contract CAN supercede laws. Not all of them, but it's done - daily.

Peaches your wasting your breathe, people refuse to see how things are done in the grown up world. Also LM this was US company to Us company we dont have privacy laws like Canada so that argument doesnt work. Reading these things the past few has really turned my stomach and for the first time made me ashamed to be in adult. Defending possible CP and condemning a company who acted responsible are condemned for acting like the internet police,when we all should be active in policing that shit. turns my stomach.

[softball]

Originally Posted by tony404

Peaches your wasting your breathe, people refuse to see how things are done in the grown up world. Also LM this was US company to Us company we dont have privacy laws like Canada so that argument doesnt work. Reading these things the past few has really turned my stomach and for the first time made me ashamed to be in adult. Defending possible CP and condemning a company who acted responsible are condemned for acting like the internet police,when we all should be active in policing that shit. turns my stomach.

You gotta read the posts, tony. This is not about CP it is about the law. It is about who enforces that law. Not private militias or bounty hunters. But legally constituted bodies. DN is not one of them. They had a legal route and there are agencies to deal with this. It is about enforcement. One more time CP is a red herring. Listen up.

[edward]

this may be the 1st time ive ever seen peaches call someone dude, that i can remember anyway

[softball]

Originally Posted by edward

this may be the 1st time ive ever seen peaches call someone dude, that i can remember anyway

LMFAOROF

[tony404]

Originally Posted by rhetorical

You gotta read the posts, tony. This is not about CP it is about the law. It is about who enforces that law. Not private militias or bounty hunters. But legally constituted bodies. DN is not one of them. They had a legal route and there are agencies to deal with this. It is about enforcement. One more time CP is a red herring. Listen up.

They had a TOS he agree to it, so they can enforce it. You sign a contract, you got to follow the rules.

[Jace]

Originally Posted by tony404

They had a TOS he agree to it, so they can enforce it. You sign a contract, you got to follow the rules.

while I do agree with your point, I also think that a TOS is only as good as the person that wrote it, and in court TOS's get thrown out all the time

and also, there is FAR more going on here than a TOS....my opinion is that someone higher up, far above Directnic, was investigating or inquired about all this...I think once Directnic gets their ducks in a row, we will most likely hear about how they were working with another agency

hell, even google has the domain listed as "possible child porn" now, which makes me think someone else is pushing buttons

[sarettah]

Originally Posted by Jace

while I do agree with your point, I also think that a TOS is only as good as the person that wrote it, and in court TOS's get thrown out all the time

and also, there is FAR more going on here than a TOS....my opinion is that someone higher up, far above Directnic, was investigating or inquired about all this...I think once Directnic gets their ducks in a row, we will most likely hear about how they were working with another agency

hell, even google has the domain listed as "possible child porn" now, which makes me think someone else is pushing buttons

Really?

[tony404]

Originally Posted by Jace

while I do agree with your point, I also think that a TOS is only as good as the person that wrote it, and in court TOS's get thrown out all the time

and also, there is FAR more going on here than a TOS....my opinion is that someone higher up, far above Directnic, was investigating or inquired about all this...I think once Directnic gets their ducks in a row, we will most likely hear about how they were working with another agency

hell, even google has the domain listed as "possible child porn" now, which makes me think someone else is pushing buttons

TOS's get thrown out all the time, got some examples ?

[softball]

Originally Posted by tony404

They had a TOS he agree to it, so they can enforce it. You sign a contract, you got to follow the rules.

Not if the TOS are illegal in the first place. You can sign a legal contract to break the law and the execution of the contract is illegal.

[tony404]

Originally Posted by rhetorical

Not if the TOS are illegal in the first place. You can sign a legal contract to break the law and the execution of the contract is illegal.

Where did you get your law degree? Your assuming its illegal because you dont like the outcome. That was probably written by a room full of lawyers. I hope he sues them it would be something to see the look on slicks face when the judge asks if it was cp and if not did he have the proof it wasnt.

[softball]

Originally Posted by Peaches

LOL, Rhetorical is still posting to me? Dude, you've been on IGNORE for WEEKS. Grasp that concept, please.

And LM, yes, TOS can supercede the law in many jurisdictions. I've said this MANY times before. I signed a contract with my HOA that says I can't paint my house pink or they'll fine me and put a lien on my house. Or they can come and paint it, charge me for it, and put a lien on my house. It is NOT illegal in GA to paint a house pink. But a contract CAN supercede laws. Not all of them, but it's done - daily.

I know you are watching me....lololo.dudette, don't you know I know?

Now...
"TOS can supercede the law in many jurisdictions"
That is ludicrous. You need to go back to school. Or you have really bad legal advice. In fact the situation you described does not back up your silly argument.

[sarettah]

Originally Posted by LadyMischief

A point I mentioned before. Terms of service cannot force you to break the law. Think of this example.

If you have a contract with someone else for them to kill that person, it may be a legally "binding" contract with the legalese, but could someone truly enforce a contract to break a law? If there are privacy laws involved (and that hasn't been confirmed or denied yet), no TOS in the world could force someone to break the law to comply.

But they can enforce the TOS until an authority tells them they cannot. It requires someone getting in front of a judge and all that.

[LadyMischief]

Originally Posted by sarettah

But they can enforce the TOS until an authority tells them they cannot. It requires someone getting in front of a judge and all that.

True. I don't understand why there isn't some universal terms of service that companies use as a basis. It seems the biggest problem in the domain market is that every company does things so dramatically differently, and their terms cover such a huge gammut of different things, most people couldn't even begin to understand the implications of the differences.

And yes, I know you're going to say "those people should get a lawyer", but realistically your average joe buying domains (adult or otherwise) wouldn't be able to do that.

[Peaches]

Originally Posted by LadyMischief

And yes, I know you're going to say "those people should get a lawyer", but realistically your average joe buying domains (adult or otherwise) wouldn't be able to do that.

You shouldn't be running a business if you can't afford a lawyer and turning off a domain is only going to hurt you financially if you're running a business.

[LadyMischief]

Originally Posted by Peaches

You shouldn't be running a business if you can't afford a lawyer and turning off a domain is only going to hurt you financially if you're running a business.

I agree with you. However this isn't always the case and it's those that DO NOT practice a business as a business that threaten those of us that conduct ourselves in a businesslike fashion. Unfortunately the lowest common demoninator thing applies here. What happens to them eventually trickles down (or rather, up in this case). I hate constantly suffering and having to change the way I do business because some idiot who can't bother to get a lawyer does something stupid. But if those things do happen, I guess we all have to be prepared.

[Hammer]

LMFAO. He got an email about the content on his sites and went to GFY because "I always figured that GFY is the place to find out information on everything".

Another typical GFY moron.

[Jace]

Originally Posted by Hammer

LMFAO. He got an email about the content on his sites and went to GFY because "I always figured that GFY is the place to find out information on everything".

Another typical GFY moron.

yeah, I still don't understand why someone would instantly run to GFY first when getting an email like that?

FIRST thing I would have done would be to call DirectNic, instantly, and talk with someone in charge.....seems like he waited til the 2nd or 3rd til he even tried that