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[Jace]

so, he made public what Directnic did and they got mad?

seems pretty childish and I still think they were in the wrong

I am sure the fact that they lost THOUSANDS of domains registered in their system didn't help either, I know of at least 1500 domains gone from there personally

[softball]

Originally Posted by Jace

so, he made public what Directnic did and they got mad?

seems pretty childish and I still think they were in the wrong

I am sure the fact that they lost THOUSANDS of domains registered in their system didn't help either, I know of at least 1500 domains gone from there personally

They were very, very wrong as far as I can see. This kid had to eat humble pie to regain his business. All those in favour of turning over regulation of the internet to registrars, the line forms on the right.....the extreme right.

[Peaches]

Originally Posted by Jace

so, he made public what Directnic did and they got mad?

seems pretty childish and I still think they were in the wrong

I am sure the fact that they lost THOUSANDS of domains registered in their system didn't help either, I know of at least 1500 domains gone from there personally

And I'm willing to bet those 1500 domains didn't bother reading their new registrars TOS either.

[softball]

Originally Posted by Peaches

And I'm willing to bet those 1500 domains didn't bother reading their new registrars TOS either.

You can write anything you like into a tos. Does not make it legal just because you say so. Peaches, as you are a pornographer your defense of this action seems more personal than professional.

[LadyMischief]

Originally Posted by rhetorical

You can write anything you like into a tos. Does not make it legal just because you say so. Peaches, as you are a pornographer your defense of this action seems more personal than professional.

A point I mentioned before. Terms of service cannot force you to break the law. Think of this example.

If you have a contract with someone else for them to kill that person, it may be a legally "binding" contract with the legalese, but could someone truly enforce a contract to break a law? If there are privacy laws involved (and that hasn't been confirmed or denied yet), no TOS in the world could force someone to break the law to comply.

[Peaches]

LOL, Rhetorical is still posting to me? Dude, you've been on IGNORE for WEEKS. Grasp that concept, please.

And LM, yes, TOS can supercede the law in many jurisdictions. I've said this MANY times before. I signed a contract with my HOA that says I can't paint my house pink or they'll fine me and put a lien on my house. Or they can come and paint it, charge me for it, and put a lien on my house. It is NOT illegal in GA to paint a house pink. But a contract CAN supercede laws. Not all of them, but it's done - daily.

[tony404]

Originally Posted by Peaches

LOL, Rhetorical is still posting to me? Dude, you've been on IGNORE for WEEKS. Grasp that concept, please.

And LM, yes, TOS can supercede the law in many jurisdictions. I've said this MANY times before. I signed a contract with my HOA that says I can't paint my house pink or they'll fine me and put a lien on my house. Or they can come and paint it, charge me for it, and put a lien on my house. It is NOT illegal in GA to paint a house pink. But a contract CAN supercede laws. Not all of them, but it's done - daily.

Peaches your wasting your breathe, people refuse to see how things are done in the grown up world. Also LM this was US company to Us company we dont have privacy laws like Canada so that argument doesnt work. Reading these things the past few has really turned my stomach and for the first time made me ashamed to be in adult. Defending possible CP and condemning a company who acted responsible are condemned for acting like the internet police,when we all should be active in policing that shit. turns my stomach.

[softball]

Originally Posted by tony404

Peaches your wasting your breathe, people refuse to see how things are done in the grown up world. Also LM this was US company to Us company we dont have privacy laws like Canada so that argument doesnt work. Reading these things the past few has really turned my stomach and for the first time made me ashamed to be in adult. Defending possible CP and condemning a company who acted responsible are condemned for acting like the internet police,when we all should be active in policing that shit. turns my stomach.

You gotta read the posts, tony. This is not about CP it is about the law. It is about who enforces that law. Not private militias or bounty hunters. But legally constituted bodies. DN is not one of them. They had a legal route and there are agencies to deal with this. It is about enforcement. One more time CP is a red herring. Listen up.

[softball]

Originally Posted by Peaches

LOL, Rhetorical is still posting to me? Dude, you've been on IGNORE for WEEKS. Grasp that concept, please.

And LM, yes, TOS can supercede the law in many jurisdictions. I've said this MANY times before. I signed a contract with my HOA that says I can't paint my house pink or they'll fine me and put a lien on my house. Or they can come and paint it, charge me for it, and put a lien on my house. It is NOT illegal in GA to paint a house pink. But a contract CAN supercede laws. Not all of them, but it's done - daily.

I know you are watching me....lololo.dudette, don't you know I know?

Now...
"TOS can supercede the law in many jurisdictions"
That is ludicrous. You need to go back to school. Or you have really bad legal advice. In fact the situation you described does not back up your silly argument.

[sarettah]

Originally Posted by LadyMischief

A point I mentioned before. Terms of service cannot force you to break the law. Think of this example.

If you have a contract with someone else for them to kill that person, it may be a legally "binding" contract with the legalese, but could someone truly enforce a contract to break a law? If there are privacy laws involved (and that hasn't been confirmed or denied yet), no TOS in the world could force someone to break the law to comply.

But they can enforce the TOS until an authority tells them they cannot. It requires someone getting in front of a judge and all that.

[LadyMischief]

Originally Posted by sarettah

But they can enforce the TOS until an authority tells them they cannot. It requires someone getting in front of a judge and all that.

True. I don't understand why there isn't some universal terms of service that companies use as a basis. It seems the biggest problem in the domain market is that every company does things so dramatically differently, and their terms cover such a huge gammut of different things, most people couldn't even begin to understand the implications of the differences.

And yes, I know you're going to say "those people should get a lawyer", but realistically your average joe buying domains (adult or otherwise) wouldn't be able to do that.

[Peaches]

Originally Posted by LadyMischief

And yes, I know you're going to say "those people should get a lawyer", but realistically your average joe buying domains (adult or otherwise) wouldn't be able to do that.

You shouldn't be running a business if you can't afford a lawyer and turning off a domain is only going to hurt you financially if you're running a business.

[Jace]

Originally Posted by Peaches

And I'm willing to bet those 1500 domains didn't bother reading their new registrars TOS either.

I had a nice intelligent response all typed out, but I can see that trying to make a point in a discussion with you is about as easy as trying to trying to find lifeboat space as a 3rd class passenger on the Titanic, useless