How to get the point across to you LM.....

[sarettah]

Originally Posted by rhetorical

So are you part of the mob or are you for free speech and the rule of law?

I am completely for free speech. Rule of law does not always please me as patience is not one of my virtues

[softball]

Originally Posted by sarettah

I am completely for free speech. Rule of law does not always please me as patience is not one of my virtues

Shoot first and ask questions later? I would suggest you are in favour of free speech when it suits your needs or is convenient.

[LadyMischief]

Originally Posted by sarettah

I am completely for free speech. Rule of law does not always please me as patience is not one of my virtues

I don't think you could convince me even for ONE second that if this SAME thing happened in a way that COULD potentially directly affect your own business (and honestly, this can open the pandora's box on ALL adult, as if anyone would simply stop at teen) that you wouldn't take a personal interest in the way things went down. You may be a developer now, but you've run sites in the past. How would your opinion of DirectNIC's actions be different if it was you it was affecting? (Not pointing fingers, again just inciting discussion)

[softball]

Personally, I think this is an old school loyalty kind of thing. Circle the waggons and the truth be damned.

[Jace]

oh my fucking god people

let it go, let it play out, see what happens

[softball]

Originally Posted by Jace

oh my fucking god people

let it go, let it play out, see what happens

Why? It should be discussed.

[Jace]

Originally Posted by rhetorical

Why? It should be discussed.

i think when all the facts come to light it would be a lot easier to discuss, that way both sides are on the table

right now as it stands there is Mike AI in the mayflower telling everyone what is happening, and everyone who doesn't have access to that site guessing and throwing in their opinion, when obviously there is SO MUCH more than what people know

hell, the google notice alone is enough to make me cringe and not even speak up

[sarettah]

Originally Posted by Jace

right now as it stands there is Mike AI in the mayflower telling everyone what is happening, and everyone who doesn't have access to that site guessing and throwing in their opinion, when obviously there is SO MUCH more than what people know

What, if i may ask, is the Mayflower?

[softball]

OK, here is a Free Speech Coalition opinion....excerpts....

"First Amendment attorney and Free Speech Coalition Chairman Jeffrey Douglas said the ID request is unprecedented, and more importantly, a violation of privacy laws. According to Douglas, the request is illegal, and also could have a chilling effect on the free speech of webmasters that deal in legal teen content.

“This is a blatant and absolute violation of privacy laws,” Douglas told XBIZ. “There’s absolutely no legal liability for the registrar if underage models appear on a website. DirectNIC is an officious intermeddler.”

Upon receiving a complaint of child pornography, there are legal courses of action for directNIC to take, Douglas said. Since it has no legal right to obtain personally identifiable information from the website’s models, the company should have alerted the proper legal authorities, but instead it decided to take the law into its own hands. "


"“The bottom line is that if [directNIC] received a complaint about child porn, there are a numerous avenues for them to report it to the proper legal authorities,” Douglas said. “DirectNIC has no remote prayer to legally justify their request. They are licensed to provide a service — not to police content. I would think that upon hearing this, most adult companies would transfer their domains [away from directNIC] immediately.”

"Douglas continued, “Again, under federal law they have no right to these documents, so now they have no protection from civil liability. They are immune from policing content under the law, but now by doing so they have created liability. DirectNIC is lawlessly intruding into their business.”

And the DirectNic Response:

"According to directNIC General Counsel David W. Nance, upon receiving a warranted complaint of child porn, the company takes action by either immediately shutting down the domain or conducting an investigation.

“In most cases when there is a confirmed report of child porn, directNIC takes immediate action and shuts down the domain names because it is blatantly obvious that the customer is offering child porn,” Nance told XBIZ. “However, not every case is clear cut. The letter was intended to notify the customer of the potential issue that was reported to directNIC. This does not mean that the domains contain child porn; it only means that an investigation was commenced — i.e., we want to make sure that we do not facilitate the trading of child porn online.”


http://www.freespeechcoalition.com/F...view&coid=1014