DirectNic Demands SlicksNetwork.com Hand Over Model IDs

[LadyMischief]

Originally Posted by Hammer

Exactly right, he was targeting pedophiles. Either that or he's a real idiot and was targeting teenage boys without credit cards.

This is where the line between societal mores and basic human evolution clash. 100 years ago, it was perfectly acceptable and even normal for a 14 year old girl to be married and starting a family. Throughout recorded history until OUR CENTURY, girls 12 years old were already getting married and starting families, and the (often much older) men they married didn't have people running around pointing and calling them pedophiles. It was the norm. In the human psyche, no matter what society tells us, males will respond to females who present them with "fresh, vital, full of life and fertile". It's simple instinct. In today's society it's not acceptable for men to be turned on by this because of the magical number "18" that has been imposed in the name of societal mores. I AGREE with that number being in place, I don't feel young girls in our society are ready to deal with more than they have already. HOWEVER, implying that men are pedophiles because they respond to/are attracted by youthful females, you are saying that it's human nature to be a pedophile. This is NOT the case. The definition of pedophile in the dictionary is:

pe·do·phile /ˈpidəˌfaɪl/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[pee-duh-fahyl] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
–noun Psychiatry.
an adult who is sexually attracted to young children.
Also, pedophiliac.

PRE-PUBESCENT children are the scope of interest of TRUE pedophiles, once they sproud their little boobies and start gaining some shape, the TRUE pedophiles are NO LONGER INTERESTED. The real issue here isn't subscribing to pedophiles so much as it's catering to human nature. Sure, CP gets thrown into the mix and there ARE sickos who seek that stuff, but if we're goign to start hurling these kind of words, let's be REALISTIC about the reasons why people keep doing it. IT WORKS. Human nature/instinct has NOT evolved as quickly as our society has and no matter if society says it's wrong, it is still a part of the equation. I am in no way saying that marketing in this way is good, or that I agree with it.. However, it DOES work, and will CONTINUE to work, right or wrong, not because of a world full of PERVERTS, but because it's a world full of MEN who are just as subject to their own nature as they are the neccessity to breathe.

Not a single man here could tell me he hasn't looked, BY INSTINCT at an attractive underage girl. What he did with the thought process after that point is really all his own nature, but the fact that his brain DID make him take note even though HE CONSCIOUSLY KNOWS IT'S WRONG UNDER SOCIETY'S law, his instincts are still playing that role of procreator and looking for the best, freshest, healthiest candidates to carry his DNA into the next generation.

[sarettah]

Originally Posted by LadyMischief

Not a single man here could tell me he hasn't looked, BY INSTINCT at an attractive underage girl. What he did with the thought process after that point is really all his own nature, but the fact that his brain DID make him take note even though HE CONSCIOUSLY KNOWS IT'S WRONG UNDER SOCIETY'S law, his instincts are still playing that role of procreator and looking for the best, freshest, healthiest candidates to carry his DNA into the next generation.

The thumbs I saw appeared to be prepubescent, I would have put them in the 8 year old area. And I have 2 daughters so I do know the difference between prepubescent and teen.

These did not bring up the instinct of I want to reproduce with that, it brought up the image of anyone who destroys that innocence should be shot and damn, that girl is scared shitless of what that asshole is about to do.

[LadyMischief]

Originally Posted by sarettah

The thumbs I saw appeared to be prepubescent, I would have put them in the 8 year old area. And I have 2 daughters so I do know the difference between prepubescent and teen.

These did not bring up the instinct of I want to reproduce with that, it brought up the image of anyone who destroys that innocence should be shot and damn, that girl is scared shitless of what that asshole is about to do.

That shit scares me too, I have two little girls. THe stuff I personally saw on slick's sites was never that questionable, what was on his trades was what brought me up short.

My comments on instinct were simply to bring a little perspective to the other argument, about taking older girls and making them look younger. Actual CP itself is sickening, and if it was on Slick's sites he deserves what he gets. Every gallery I saw when I looked in web-archives were from well-known/highly promoted sponsors that are "reputable", however. Please show me the questionable thumbs because I'd be curious to see what sponsors they are promoting.

[sarettah]

Originally Posted by LadyMischief

Please show me the questionable thumbs because I'd be curious to see what sponsors they are promoting.

The only page I looked at was the front of majorpervert. I am not sure how you would get back to what was there at that point.

[Peaches]

I never saw the questionable content on Slick's sites because it personally bothers me so much, that I won't even attempt to view it if even if proves a point.

However, many people FOR Slick and AGAINST DirectNic said there were CP links.

Slick might be making a lot of money doing what he's done. As Shania said "That don't impress me much.". The guy make mistake, after mistake, after mistake. If it runs him out of business, I have no pity for him.

I canceled all of my domains with "teen" in them at least 2 years ago. I removed all the content on my freesites when the 2257 issue was rearing its ugly head. It's possible to make money in this biz without even getting NEAR the edge of the envelope, let alone be over the edge and not even know it - where it seems Slick was.

[LadyMischief]

Originally Posted by Peaches

I never saw the questionable content on Slick's sites because it personally bothers me so much, that I won't even attempt to view it if even if proves a point.

However, many people FOR Slick and AGAINST DirectNic said there were CP links.

Slick might be making a lot of money doing what he's done. As Shania said "That don't impress me much.". The guy make mistake, after mistake, after mistake. If it runs him out of business, I have no pity for him.

I canceled all of my domains with "teen" in them at least 2 years ago. I removed all the content on my freesites when the 2257 issue was rearing its ugly head. It's possible to make money in this biz without even getting NEAR the edge of the envelope, let alone be over the edge and not even know it - where it seems Slick was.

That's great for you, but there are a lot of people who still promote the teen category in a LEGITIMATE way. Would those people not want to know who was doing things wrong and make sure they were blacklisted or they stopped doing business with them? I want to know because it might affect my business, and for no other reason at this point. You guys crucified him for his affiliations saying he should have "checked them" well I like to do the same kind of research, but I prefer to go on what is really there instead of heresay, that's all.

[Peaches]

Originally Posted by LadyMischief

That's great for you, but there are a lot of people who still promote the teen category in a LEGITIMATE way. Would those people not want to know who was doing things wrong and make sure they were blacklisted or they stopped doing business with them? I want to know because it might affect my business, and for no other reason at this point. You guys crucified him for his affiliations saying he should have "checked them" well I like to do the same kind of research, but I prefer to go on what is really there instead of heresay, that's all.

Well, apparently what was there was pretty bad. Per Slick's own post "Then it comes up here and half the board does have a problem with what's on there.".

The Dutch government even blocked access to some of his trades.

Bottom line, IMO, dude didn't check his trades and he was trading with some not-so-nice people who didn't think "teen" meant "over 18".

[TheEnforcer]

Originally Posted by Peaches

I canceled all of my domains with "teen" in them at least 2 years ago. I removed all the content on my freesites when the 2257 issue was rearing its ugly head. It's possible to make money in this biz without even getting NEAR the edge of the envelope, let alone be over the edge and not even know it - where it seems Slick was.

I don't own but a single domain, the one in my sig, and haven't had any content online for years.

[spazlabz]

Originally Posted by sarettah

The thumbs I saw appeared to be prepubescent, I would have put them in the 8 year old area. And I have 2 daughters so I do know the difference between prepubescent and teen.

That certainly changes a lot in my opinion. I did not see the thumbs in question because the sites were taken down before I found out about the discussion.

however, as distatseful as that is, it was not DN's place to shut down these sites. it just wasnt. No matter how indignant anyone could become over what was shown on that site DN had a legal course of action it should have taken and didn't.

It appears to be a knee jerk reaction, understandable as it may be, but they are not as rhetorical says Judge, Jurry & Executioner here and should not have tried to become one

By taking the high moral ground they acted like scummy bible thumpers


spaz

[LadyMischief]

Originally Posted by spazlabz

That certainly changes a lot in my opinion. I did not see the thumbs in question because the sites were taken down before I found out about the discussion.

however, as distatseful as that is, it was not DN's place to shut down these sites. it just wasnt. No matter how indignant anyone could become over what was shown on that site DN had a legal course of action it should have taken and didn't.

It appears to be a knee jerk reaction, understandable as it may be, but they are not as rhetorical says Judge, Jurry & Executioner here and should not have tried to become one

By taking the high moral ground they acted like scummy bible thumpers


spaz

You can see what was on the site to this day on web-archives. I don't have the url handy but I've been through quite a few of the listings.