The whole directnic thing could be the best thing

[LadyMischief]

Originally Posted by Peaches

See what happens when you start dealing with surfers on a webmaster board? I still think he's a fake, but whatever.

You're assuming that surfers aren't smart enough to figure out how things work. I know more than enough people in the "surfer" realm that are technically (or just generally) savvy enough to know when they are being bamboozled or to figure out how things work. This isn't the 90's anymore, it's the internet generation. And ESPECIALLY those who work in tech support etc, they will know/figure out how the system works.

[softball]

Originally Posted by LadyMischief

You're assuming that surfers aren't smart enough to figure out how things work. I know more than enough people in the "surfer" realm that are technically (or just generally) savvy enough to know when they are being bamboozled or to figure out how things work. This isn't the 90's anymore, it's the internet generation. And ESPECIALLY those who work in tech support etc, they will know/figure out how the system works.

I'w with peaches on this.

"I know more than enough people in the "surfer" realm that are technically (or just generally) savvy enough to know when they are being bamboozled "

How about the webmaster realm?

[Grump]

I have 2 reservations about this. On one hand we have Directnic attempting to enforce the laws. That is supposed to be the job of only government agencies and for a reason, they are regulated in what they can and can't do. The legislative branch of the government makes the laws, the judicial branch judges the laws, and then the enforcement agencies enforce these laws.

Directnic, or any other company, has no such oversight. This is just asking for problems, it is called vigilante justice and there's a reason it is not a good thing, it gets out of hand.

I am not saying that Directnic is right or wrong, just wondering who's standards they are applying as judge and jury here. Legal standards are supposed to be set by the government, not individuals with no oversight.

A registrar owned by a company or person with strong religious beliefs could use this same logic to make similar claims against any adult domain, that in thier view it is improper. They feel it is obscene, therefore it should be locked and removed and the precedent for this has been set by Directnic.

If Directnic sees problems, they should do as any other private or corporate entity does, report it to the proper authorities and let them do thier job.

The other thing I see is more and more people are judging content by how they think others will percieve it and not based on the content itself. A photo is obscene or not based on the contents of the photo, not by how you or I think someone else will view it. We all see things differently, I may think this model is hot while you may not, thats opinion.

To judge legality based on opinion and not law is dangerous, as who's opinion is right? Your's, mine, thier's??

Very worrisome.

[Peaches]

Grump, you're assuming a judge hasn't already ordered DirectNic to do what they did. I'm not saying that's what happened but I don't know, but it's certainly a possibility.

[Toby]

Originally Posted by Peaches

Grump, you're assuming a judge hasn't already ordered DirectNic to do what they did. I'm not saying that's what happened but I don't know, but it's certainly a possibility.

There certainly does seem to be someone pulling strings from behind the curtain.

[tony404]

Originally Posted by Grump

I have 2 reservations about this. On one hand we have Directnic attempting to enforce the laws. That is supposed to be the job of only government agencies and for a reason, they are regulated in what they can and can't do. The legislative branch of the government makes the laws, the judicial branch judges the laws, and then the enforcement agencies enforce these laws.

Directnic, or any other company, has no such oversight. This is just asking for problems, it is called vigilante justice and there's a reason it is not a good thing, it gets out of hand.

I am not saying that Directnic is right or wrong, just wondering who's standards they are applying as judge and jury here. Legal standards are supposed to be set by the government, not individuals with no oversight.

A registrar owned by a company or person with strong religious beliefs could use this same logic to make similar claims against any adult domain, that in thier view it is improper. They feel it is obscene, therefore it should be locked and removed and the precedent for this has been set by Directnic.

If Directnic sees problems, they should do as any other private or corporate entity does, report it to the proper authorities and let them do thier job.

The other thing I see is more and more people are judging content by how they think others will percieve it and not based on the content itself. A photo is obscene or not based on the contents of the photo, not by how you or I think someone else will view it. We all see things differently, I may think this model is hot while you may not, thats opinion.

To judge legality based on opinion and not law is dangerous, as who's opinion is right? Your's, mine, thier's??

Very worrisome.

Im sorry it was in their TOS that he agreed so they did have the right. Sorry obscenity Im on the fight but CP the industry should police itself, fuck waiting. He was asked in a email because they received a compliant and did nothing but went to GFY instead of them because he didnt know if the email was real or not. Also he has produced ids yet, doesnt take that long to get them. Its bad enough they lump us in with CP and all these people running to slicks defense on very questionable material,that he seems clueless whats there and whats not.

[Peaches]

Originally Posted by LadyMischief

You're assuming that surfers aren't smart enough to figure out how things work. I know more than enough people in the "surfer" realm that are technically (or just generally) savvy enough to know when they are being bamboozled or to figure out how things work. This isn't the 90's anymore, it's the internet generation. And ESPECIALLY those who work in tech support etc, they will know/figure out how the system works.

If "AnotherGrogan" is truly a surfer, then he has already proven he doesn't know how things work, which prompted Sarettah's post, which prompted mine.

Perhaps Gonzo's plan is to make this into a surfer board and he's legit.