The whole directnic thing could be the best thing

[gonzo]

Originally Posted by AnotherGrogan

Heheh, thanks for doing a great job then

I'm going to start sticking to known cleaner sites. I have to admit that some of the tgp redirects I've clicked in my wanderings have led me to things that have made me shred my browser cache files instead of clearing them. I don't want any more exposure to that crap. I was just thinking of it as wading through a sea of garbage to get to the content I like, but what has happened here has made me start to get more alarmed about it. I also never really thought much about ethics of the site operators. I'm glad to see that some of you have high standards.

It's also made me rethink something else. I could get lots more of the exact content I want by subscribing to a few of those (honest, reputable) sites that the good tgp's lead to, without exposing myself to bad juju. The really good ones are often the most generous with the samples for tgp galleries.

Your in the right place for the straight scoop.

As a surfer do you see the use for an honest adult review site along with a site that would allow you to lodge complaints about a shitty site?

[AnotherGrogan]

Originally Posted by gonzo

As a surfer do you see the use for an honest adult review site along with a site that would allow you to lodge complaints about a shitty site?

I would see value in it if I could trust that the reviewers are not promoting or slandering something for personal gain. No offense to good people here, but we all know that some adult webmasters are prone to use any means of getting their sites promoted, including using other people to do their dirty work. Pathetic slimeball tactics like getting people to go 'round registering for shit.

Your wording of "honest review site" leads me to believe that's what you have in mind. Trusted reviewers and rigorous moderation/scrutiny of complaints lodged by Joe Public. That would be a good thing to have.

[gonzo]

Originally Posted by AnotherGrogan

I would see value in it if I could trust that the reviewers are not promoting or slandering something for personal gain. No offense to good people here, but we all know that some adult webmasters are prone to use any means of getting their sites promoted, including using other people to do their dirty work. Pathetic slimeball tactics like getting people to go 'round registering for shit.

Your wording of "honest review site" leads me to believe that's what you have in mind. Trusted reviewers and rigorous moderation/scrutiny of complaints lodged by Joe Public. That would be a good thing to have.

Thank you for your input. I will be in touch.

[LadyMischief]

Originally Posted by AnotherGrogan

I would see value in it if I could trust that the reviewers are not promoting or slandering something for personal gain. No offense to good people here, but we all know that some adult webmasters are prone to use any means of getting their sites promoted, including using other people to do their dirty work. Pathetic slimeball tactics like getting people to go 'round registering for shit.

Your wording of "honest review site" leads me to believe that's what you have in mind. Trusted reviewers and rigorous moderation/scrutiny of complaints lodged by Joe Public. That would be a good thing to have.

If Gonzo said it's going to be honest, he means to the point of brutality. I think you can be rest-assured of that! lol.

[sarettah]

Originally Posted by AnotherGrogan

we all know that some adult webmasters are prone to use any means of getting their sites promoted, including using other people to do their dirty work.

Really?

[Peaches]

Originally Posted by sarettah

Really?

See what happens when you start dealing with surfers on a webmaster board? I still think he's a fake, but whatever.

[LadyMischief]

Originally Posted by Peaches

See what happens when you start dealing with surfers on a webmaster board? I still think he's a fake, but whatever.

You're assuming that surfers aren't smart enough to figure out how things work. I know more than enough people in the "surfer" realm that are technically (or just generally) savvy enough to know when they are being bamboozled or to figure out how things work. This isn't the 90's anymore, it's the internet generation. And ESPECIALLY those who work in tech support etc, they will know/figure out how the system works.

[softball]

Originally Posted by LadyMischief

You're assuming that surfers aren't smart enough to figure out how things work. I know more than enough people in the "surfer" realm that are technically (or just generally) savvy enough to know when they are being bamboozled or to figure out how things work. This isn't the 90's anymore, it's the internet generation. And ESPECIALLY those who work in tech support etc, they will know/figure out how the system works.

I'w with peaches on this.

"I know more than enough people in the "surfer" realm that are technically (or just generally) savvy enough to know when they are being bamboozled "

How about the webmaster realm?

[Grump]

I have 2 reservations about this. On one hand we have Directnic attempting to enforce the laws. That is supposed to be the job of only government agencies and for a reason, they are regulated in what they can and can't do. The legislative branch of the government makes the laws, the judicial branch judges the laws, and then the enforcement agencies enforce these laws.

Directnic, or any other company, has no such oversight. This is just asking for problems, it is called vigilante justice and there's a reason it is not a good thing, it gets out of hand.

I am not saying that Directnic is right or wrong, just wondering who's standards they are applying as judge and jury here. Legal standards are supposed to be set by the government, not individuals with no oversight.

A registrar owned by a company or person with strong religious beliefs could use this same logic to make similar claims against any adult domain, that in thier view it is improper. They feel it is obscene, therefore it should be locked and removed and the precedent for this has been set by Directnic.

If Directnic sees problems, they should do as any other private or corporate entity does, report it to the proper authorities and let them do thier job.

The other thing I see is more and more people are judging content by how they think others will percieve it and not based on the content itself. A photo is obscene or not based on the contents of the photo, not by how you or I think someone else will view it. We all see things differently, I may think this model is hot while you may not, thats opinion.

To judge legality based on opinion and not law is dangerous, as who's opinion is right? Your's, mine, thier's??

Very worrisome.

[Peaches]

Originally Posted by LadyMischief

You're assuming that surfers aren't smart enough to figure out how things work. I know more than enough people in the "surfer" realm that are technically (or just generally) savvy enough to know when they are being bamboozled or to figure out how things work. This isn't the 90's anymore, it's the internet generation. And ESPECIALLY those who work in tech support etc, they will know/figure out how the system works.

If "AnotherGrogan" is truly a surfer, then he has already proven he doesn't know how things work, which prompted Sarettah's post, which prompted mine.

Perhaps Gonzo's plan is to make this into a surfer board and he's legit.

[AnotherGrogan]

Originally Posted by sarettah

Really?

Yes, really. I administer servers and web forums and the like, and delete such postings on a daily basis that come from people trying to portray themselves as new members who are sharing something that interests them. Porn, pirated software, snake oil programs, you name it. I should not have singled out "adult site operators". I meant what I said, "no offense to good people here" implying that you would not do things like that. But others might.

Perhaps I should not have said I'm a "surfer" but in terms of relevance to this forum, and the discussion I jumped into, that's what I am.