DirectNic Demands SlicksNetwork.com Hand Over Model IDs

[gonzo]

Originally Posted by Peaches

If DN cut him off w/o reason, he has a good lawsuit. First he needs to find a good lawyer. It seems whomever he has now isn't doing him much good.

I think hes being advised by the same people that are advising Lars.

[softball]

"This is total horseshit and it's illegal. I knew MikeAI was a Republican, but I sure didn't expect him to go from being a pornographer to a fucking zealot."

Yeah its the Joe Kennedy school of business.

[sudden]

Originally Posted by gonzo

I think hes being advised by the same people that are advising Lars.

You sure know how to beat a dead horse. Bitching about the same fucking thing .. and I dont just mean this, but every.. fucking.. thing.. over.. and.. over.. again..

It's like you like dragging shit thru mud not just once or twice, but until the river of mud has been entirely absorbed by whatever you're dragging.

And I'm not arguing about if what Lars did is good or bad, merely the fact that the majority of your posts contain bitching in the same fashion about a subject that changes about once every two to four weeks.

[gonzo]

Originally Posted by sudden

You sure know how to beat a dead horse. Bitching about the same fucking thing .. and I dont just mean this, but every.. fucking.. thing.. over.. and.. over.. again..

It's like you like dragging shit thru mud not just once or twice, but until the river of mud has been entirely absorbed by whatever you're dragging.

And I'm not arguing about if what Lars did is good or bad, merely the fact that the majority of your posts contain bitching in the same fashion about a subject that changes about once every two to four weeks.

Ok lets talk about the business model of using a bogus virus scan that tells you that your machine is infected and even pops out the CD tray to encourage the surfer to get the "cure" which is nothing more than a trojan for adware.

[softball]

Originally Posted by gonzo

Ok lets talk about the business model of using a bogus virus scan that tells you that your machine is infected and even pops out the CD tray to encourage the surfer to get the "cure" which is nothing more than a trojan for adware.

I'm with Gonzo on this. But not on the kid gloves attitude to Directnic which I think....and do most of the boards I have read today....that it is outrageous.

[gonzo]

Originally Posted by rhetorical

I'm with Gonzo on this. But not on the kid gloves attitude to Directnic which I think....and do most of the boards I have read today....that it is outrageous.

I dont think he will want to talk about it.

[softball]

Originally Posted by gonzo

I dont think he will want to talk about it.

Oh I am sure. But unless you know something that most don't, then something is really off the rails here. Putting someone out of business on a whim (or so it seems since there has been no directnic response) is just outrageous. That is, unless you are trying to go for another market...ie straight mainstream market, and are trying to position your company as a porn buster. Like I said, Joe Kennedy.

[tony404]

Internet policing ? its called a industry regulating itself or the government starts regulating for you. Imagine if everyone policed cp on line instead of waiting for the police. If you got proof everyone is of age ,you really got nothing to worry about.There would be no safe place for cp to happen in the internet world. oh I forgot in the online world its everyone's god given right to do whatever the fuck they want until they are arrested.
Then they cry why do they pick on us. lol

[gonzo]

Originally Posted by rhetorical

Oh I am sure. But unless you know something that most don't, then something is really off the rails here. Putting someone out of business on a whim (or so it seems since there has been no directnic response) is just outrageous. That is, unless you are trying to go for another market...ie straight mainstream market, and are trying to position your company as a porn buster. Like I said, Joe Kennedy.

Ive seen the same thing as everyone else has concerning directnic.

Ill wait and see how this develops.

[sudden]

Originally Posted by gonzo

Ok lets talk about the business model of using a bogus virus scan that tells you that your machine is infected and even pops out the CD tray to encourage the surfer to get the "cure" which is nothing more than a trojan for adware.

Go ahead and talk about it. Doesn't make it the case. Putting emphasis on something, or elevating the risk more than other businesses and 'bogus' is not the same thing. And buying advertising from an ad network is not the same thing as owning the ad network. Though I understand the confusion, seeing as you have been stuck on the Lars deal for months now and still seem to think he's a partner in Zango.

Get your facts straight. Oh and maybe you should try some of the shit you keep bitching about so as to stop making a lousy $4k/mo I'm sure you'd be less interested in the business of others and their methods if you were at a decent income, like $40k/mo...

[gonzo]

Originally Posted by sudden

Go ahead and talk about it. Doesn't make it the case. Putting emphasis on something, or elevating the risk more than other businesses and 'bogus' is not the same thing. And buying advertising from an ad network is not the same thing as owning the ad network. Though I understand the confusion, seeing as you have been stuck on the Lars deal for months now and still seem to think he's a partner in Zango.

Get your facts straight. Oh and maybe you should try some of the shit you keep bitching about so as to stop making a lousy $4k/mo I'm sure you'd be less interested in the business of others and their methods if you were at a decent income, like $40k/mo...

So you think is a good business model to trick a surfer with a bogus virus scan and pop out the cd tray .... load the "fix" on the machine.. which is nothing more than a trojan for adware?

[sudden]

Originally Posted by gonzo

So you think is a good business model to trick a surfer with a bogus virus scan and pop out the cd tray .... load the "fix" on the machine.. which is nothing more than a trojan for adware?

Didn't say I did. Nor do I know who you're referring to when you mention a bogus virus scan. My point was you may want to try some ideas that you haven't tried as you're obviously not doing too well with what you're doing right now, and you seem very bitter about it complaining about what everyone else (who is doing well) is doing wrong.

And asking other's on how to do shady shit (but getting no help) doesn't count as far as trying ideas go.

[gonzo]

Originally Posted by sudden

Didn't say I did. Nor do I know who you're referring to when you mention a bogus virus scan. My point was you may want to try some ideas that you haven't tried as you're obviously not doing too well with what you're doing right now, and you seem very bitter about it complaining about what everyone else (who is doing well) is doing wrong.

And asking other's on how to do shady shit (but getting no help) doesn't count as far as trying ideas go.

So you dont work for or own innovativemarketing?

[AnotherGrogan]

Hello folks

I'm not in the Adult Website business (though I've often thought about having an adult site)

I'm a user who has been going to reallyeighteen.com (and sites like it) periodically for a few years roughly and I'd like to share my perspective on this.

The problem as I perceive it is that the site doesn't really host the content, the thumbnails are redirects that pass control over to other sites and each time you click them you may end up somewhere else. The links don't always lead to the pictures shown in the thumbnails and once you get to another gallery of similar redirects you just don't know where you are going to end up if you click those links. Sometimes good, sometimes bad. Grannies, kiddies, animal sex... nothing to do with the thumbnail images.

Indeed, a few times I've ended up at galleries showing pictures of what are obviously children. I haven't worried that much about it because it was very infrequent and I just closed that particular browser tab if I saw anything like that, realizing it's not really their fault once control has been passed on to another site.

Yesterday, I noticed that there was no dns for reallyeighteen. At the time I thought it was just a temporary glitch, or they were moving or something. I know how to use whois and get the authoritative nameserver and then query that to get the IP. So I did that, and set up a hosts file entry for the site so the virtual hostname would work. It seemed to be business as usual, but I hadn't been there in a few weeks.

Today, when I checked and the problem still wasn't solved I started to suspect that something like this had occurred and started to search for answers. Google has de-listed them from their databases, citing a request from chillingeffects.org. So the only info I found was from a few (questionable) spyware removal sites with instructions for cookie removal (I use Linux so I don't give a shit about Windows malware, and I always delete cookies and browsing data after visiting adult sites so that's no problem either)

A Yahoo search led me to this discussion here and now I understand what's going on. Looking again at the registrar info, I now see it's in "Registrar-hold" status (didn't read the info that closely yesterday)

From my perspective, I'll not be going back to reallyeighteen again, because I simply don't want to be associated with the stigma of "kiddie porn". I like pictures of nice young ladies in the 18-20 age range (I'm not even especially fond of "hard core"), but I'm not exposing myself to some potential overzealous and righteous ISP employee for what I might accidently land on. It really got me thinking about that. Whether charges hold up in court or not, once you've been accused of anything to do with child porn you're finished.

It's unfortunate, and I agree that this should not be the job of a domain registrar. Not only that, how the Hell can they provide ID for the models when it's not even them who has "hired" them? Maybe I'm not fully understanding how all of this works, but it seems to me that perhaps slick networks just has to be more discriminating in their afiliations. Shutting them down is inappropriate. Cripes... drop their domains and let them transfer them or re-register elsewhere if they don't approve of the content. That's where the registrar's responsibility should end. Similar for Web hosts. Drop the customer if you don't approve, but don't fuck with them.

I'm sure I'm not alone in the way I think, so this has probably really hurt them. They'll not be able to use those domain names again... they'll have to start anew. This whole thing sickens me and that domain registrar can burn in Hell. I'll certainly never use or recommend them.

Again, I do not want to encounter child porn, but this is way over the top.