12clicks reinvents the wheel...i mean porn...i mean..um..wtf did he do?

[Hell Puppy]

Originally Posted by gonzo

Bad guy and bad business are 2 different things.

Homie doesnt have a history of wanting to help himself.
In general everyone that Ive met in this business are not bad people.
Just a lot of bad decisions but then the same could be said about me.

I wouldnt hire him to manage adwords...would you?

I wouldn't say he has a history of not WANTING to help himself. He just has absolutely no self discipline at all.

[gonzo]

Originally Posted by Hell Puppy

I wouldn't say he has a history of not WANTING to help himself. He just has absolutely no self discipline at all.

Im just going by the "webcam shows" Ive seen. Along with the pictures of absolute filth and the threads about being taken to lunch and odering 2 entres as an appetizer along with a meal ... just cuz someone else was buying.

But then again thtas not the first time Ive seen the latter.

[edward]

Originally Posted by gonzo

Im just going by the "webcam shows" Ive seen. Along with the pictures of absolute filth and the threads about being taken to lunch and odering 2 entres as an appetizer along with a meal ... just cuz someone else was buying.

But then again thtas not the first time Ive seen the latter.

when i took nick out to lunch on my dime he just ordered a salad... i think there are plenty of bad people in this business, nick is not one of them imo... its as bad as anywhere else... but hey, im not a very trusting person...

[gonzo]

Originally Posted by edward

when i took nick out to lunch on my dime he just ordered a salad... i think there are plenty of bad people in this business, nick is not one of them imo... its as bad as anywhere else... but hey, im not a very trusting person...

Oh I know there are bad people in this business.
Hell Ive had firsthand experience with it about 5 months ago.

At least he trys to do some work. There are those that just want to draw a check from posting "Hit me UP" and going to parties.

[Hammer]

Originally Posted by gonzo

There are those that just want to draw a check from posting "Hit me UP" and going to parties.

Shit, you mean that won't work?

[gonzo]

Originally Posted by Hammer

Shit, you mean that won't work?

Hit me up and Ill tell you about it.

[Hell Puppy]

Originally Posted by edward

when i took nick out to lunch on my dime he just ordered a salad... i think there are plenty of bad people in this business, nick is not one of them imo... its as bad as anywhere else... but hey, im not a very trusting person...

I dare say there are a ton of "Nick"s out there...some much worse off than the 3131. Difference is most of them haven't put themselves on display.

It has kind of made for an interesting type of celebrity in a "Surreal Life" kinda way. But it has presented some opportunities for him. So far he's blown them all, we'll see if he's learning from the mistakes.

Nice thing about bottoming out is you dont have a lot to lose or too far to fall.

[sarah_webinc]

I am sure at the core Nick is a good person. However, I just have low threshold for the type of person that wants the world to make things okay for them but has no problem 'scamming' the world. I think I actually tipped over my threshold on a thread where he talked about 'cons' he and his friends run. I know most of them were probably just made up but I don't think people should be patted on the back for thinking 'cons' are a good thing or breaking the laws of common decency for that matter either.

[gonzo]

Originally Posted by sarah_webinc

I am sure at the core Nick is a good person. However, I just have low threshold for the type of person that wants the world to make things okay for them but has no problem 'scamming' the world. I think I actually tipped over my threshold on a thread where he talked about 'cons' he and his friends run. I know most of them were probably just made up but I don't think people should be patted on the back for thinking 'cons' are a good thing or breaking the laws of common decency for that matter either.

There are those that would say he was just teaching people a lesson they needed to learn. You know the kind of thing a person says to justify theft.

[softball]

Originally Posted by gonzo

There are those that would say he was just teaching people a lesson they needed to learn. You know the kind of thing a person says to justify theft.

That was the Oprano mantra when this was a crook board.

[Jace]

Originally Posted by gonzo

There are those that would say he was just teaching people a lesson they needed to learn. You know the kind of thing a person says to justify theft.

[Hell Puppy]

Originally Posted by sarah_webinc

I am sure at the core Nick is a good person. However, I just have low threshold for the type of person that wants the world to make things okay for them but has no problem 'scamming' the world. I think I actually tipped over my threshold on a thread where he talked about 'cons' he and his friends run. I know most of them were probably just made up but I don't think people should be patted on the back for thinking 'cons' are a good thing or breaking the laws of common decency for that matter either.

Which nick are we talking about again?

Starting to sound like a couple of them I know....

[softball]

I draw the line when "spammers" send porn to underage children and hide behind the "double opt in list" excuse. A nick I know spammed everyone with this crap. That is bad for everyone in our business. Short term gain, long term pain. These guys slowed down the internet. Scared away surfers and laughed all the way to the bank. But so do crack dealers and a nick I know put the profits back up his nose and now is stuck in the burbs struggling because you have to be a businessman or a "smart" crook to survive on the net today. "Back in the day" when "old school" were scamming and spamming any wanker with a computer could get rich. Those guys seem to be falling by the wayside or clutching at straws trying to do business with Russians and that is something you should always avoid at any cost.