12clicks reinvents the wheel...i mean porn...i mean..um..wtf did he do?

[Peaches]

Originally Posted by sarah_webinc

also,while I admit that I haven't really followed the lolita drama until tonight and I really don't wish to stir, how come people don't mention the incest related domains? Incest has always meant incest online and elsewhere.

Oh, I agree. Apparently Brad needs that $1000 or so a month that 12Clicks is paying him in advertising. It's funny how many people have ICQ'd me about it.

I can't link to the post where Mojo said the "invincdomains@gmail.com" because I don't have access

But...

Here's the screen shot of who owns 12clicks.com:

http://www.onlinebeach.com/12clicks04.jpg

Here are screen shots of a list of domains associated with 12clicks.com as of Sept 19 of this year. They have changed them obviously after I called 12clicks out on it on GFY:

http://www.onlinebeach.com/12clicks1.jpg
http://www.onlinebeach.com/12clicks2.jpg

As you see, beasty, incest, lolita, etc. HOWEVER, the lolita was specifically pointed out because they were using lolita URLs to send traffic to their own Taboostories.com site, even though their own TOS for webmasters says that's not allowed - and we know 12clicks shuts down "cheaters" without notice or pay, but cheats his own, or his partner's program. Or maybe they are his partner's domains - who knows. I though Mojo was smarter than that, but he laid claim to that email address:

http://www.onlinebeach.com/12clicks3.jpg

Before I was banned, it seems someone alerted 12clicks to this 3 years ago. Well, the terminating site has changed in the last 3 years per archive.org so apparently, not only were they aware they still had the domain, they were changing the site to get the most return on their traffic.

Yeah, a real "pioneer" to respect in the industry. Ron seems to think I'm the only who disagrees with him over this. However, I didn't even KNOW about reverse DNS lookup. People have been feeding me information about him since he started attacking me instead of doing what most people did - remained friends with both Cory and I even though Cory and I disagreed.

What's also interesting is that Brad refers to Ron as his "friend". Yet Brad's never invited him to any of his private gatherings and 12clickscash uses NATS instead of Brad's Executive Stats. I guess because he put a banner with sound (which WAS against JBM rules) on Brad's message board, now they're big buddies.

Oh well. I think I'll survive - those SSI checks are handy Plus Brad owes me $500+ in posting points, lol.

[gonzo]

Originally Posted by Peaches

Oh, I agree. Apparently Brad needs that $1000 or so a month that 12Clicks is paying him in advertising. It's funny how many people have ICQ'd me about it.

I can't link to the post where Mojo said the "invincdomains@gmail.com" because I don't have access

But...

Here's the screen shot of who owns 12clicks.com:

http://www.onlinebeach.com/12clicks04.jpg

Here are screen shots of a list of domains associated with 12clicks.com as of Sept 19 of this year. They have changed them obviously after I called 12clicks out on it on GFY:

http://www.onlinebeach.com/12clicks1.jpg
http://www.onlinebeach.com/12clicks2.jpg

As you see, beasty, incest, lolita, etc. HOWEVER, the lolita was specifically pointed out because they were using lolita URLs to send traffic to their own Taboostories.com site, even though their own TOS for webmasters says that's not allowed - and we know 12clicks shuts down "cheaters" without notice or pay, but cheats his own, or his partner's program. Or maybe they are his partner's domains - who knows. I though Mojo was smarter than that, but he laid claim to that email address:

http://www.onlinebeach.com/12clicks3.jpg

Before I was banned, it seems someone alerted 12clicks to this 3 years ago. Well, the terminating site has changed in the last 3 years per archive.org so apparently, not only were they aware they still had the domain, they were changing the site to get the most return on their traffic.

Yeah, a real "pioneer" to respect in the industry. Ron seems to think I'm the only who disagrees with him over this. However, I didn't even KNOW about reverse DNS lookup. People have been feeding me information about him since he started attacking me instead of doing what most people did - remained friends with both Cory and I even though Cory and I disagreed.

Oh well. I think I'll survive - those SSI checks are handy Plus Brad owes me $500+ in posting points, lol.

Are these the screen shots that were deleted?

If so you have to ask yourself... is this who I want to do business with?

Consider your choice carefully lest you score yourself a cameo on CNN and Dateline!

And wouldnt that make you the pride of the neighborhood?

[softball]

They were not deleted.

[Peaches]

Originally Posted by rhetorical

They were not deleted.

Oops. Then nevermind........

[Peaches]

Originally Posted by gonzo

Are these the screen shots that were deleted?

If so you have to ask yourself... is this who I want to do business with?

Consider your choice carefully lest you score yourself a cameo on CNN and Dateline!

And wouldnt that make you the pride of the neighborhood?

Since I'm banned, I can't see it - did they delete the screen shots? I'm glad I told someone to take screen shots of that thread as soon as I was banned What a bunch of babies. If you screw up, at least own up to it.

[gonzo]

Originally Posted by Peaches

Since I'm banned, I can't see it - did they delete the screen shots? I'm glad I told someone to take screen shots of that thread as soon as I was banned What a bunch of babies. If you screw up, at least own up to it.

Deleted screen shots isnt the issue as much as pedo marketing is ... in my opinion.

A lot of you want to crybaby when CNN or dateline depicts this industry as a bunch of low life thieves and scammers yet the majority of you will line up when the bell sounds for that free drink or whats ever worse... just to hang out and look like your with the cool kids.


Ask yourself...how cool will I look on CNN or Dateline?

JR summed this up best elsewhere...


"face it... if you work in this biz, the world thinks you are a scumbag. now one will openly support you because of that. instead of worrying about who is president as if that really matters and is going to stop prosecutions... why not worry about the real issue... the fact that you allow yourselves to be continually characterized as predators, thieves, scammers, exploiters of children, home wreckers and a destructive force in society.

no politician will you support an industry that allows itself to be hated, stigmatized and characterized as a general threat to humanity.

this business is its own worst enemy."



So go ahead and send that traffic with the promise of making a few cents more per click. This time your not risking a little more money... this time maybe you will be made famous!

[softball]

When I first started in the business (excuse me while I blow the cobwebs off of my Classic 2) someone gave me a good piece of advice. Never do anything that will humiliate you or your family if you get busted or outted. Now I think anyone who uses lolita or incest now or ever to sell porn does embarrasses us all. I very rarely agree with JR, but in this case I do. Shame on any of you who have ever owned or made money out of pedo or incest domains, traffic or pictures.

[Hammer]

What ever happened 'don't shoot the messenger'?

[Peaches]

Originally Posted by Hammer

What ever happened 'don't shoot the messenger'?

That's what's so funny: BRAD SPECIFICALLY ASKED ME FOR PROOF! I gave it to him. He got mad and banned me.

He's claiming 2 advertisers quit because of me. Bullshit. Unless I have a LOT more power than he and MFM have. In WHICH case, I'm running for office.

[Hell Puppy]

Originally Posted by Peaches

Since I'm banned, I can't see it - did they delete the screen shots? I'm glad I told someone to take screen shots of that thread as soon as I was banned What a bunch of babies. If you screw up, at least own up to it.

He didn't delete the thread with the screen shots. I saw where he editted some of your posts in some other threads though. No idea what he changed of course.

It's one of those things that lets you see who your real friends are.

[Peaches]

Originally Posted by Hell Puppy

He didn't delete the thread with the screen shots. I saw where he editted some of your posts in some other threads though. No idea what he changed of course.

It's one of those things that lets you see who your real friends are.

C'mon - you know I've never considered Brad a friend, lol.

I'm feeling quite powerful today - anyone need someone pissed off?

[sarah_webinc]

whenever somebody gets banned on any board I love to watch the flow of people kiss ass with the opinions they suddenly have

[Peaches]

Originally Posted by sarah_webinc

whenever somebody gets banned on any board I love to watch the flow of people kiss ass with the opinions they suddenly have

Yes, it's been quite interesting reading the posts there.