'Girls Gone Wild' Guilty of 2257 Violations

[Hammer]

Who gives a fuck whether the fine bothers him or not? The point is that we're all fighting the perception that we're all a bunch of child pornographers and then this dick pulls this shit. This will make the mainstream news and all the ordinary people watching the news will be saying "Damnit Martha, I told you all of those guys were alike."

It's one thing when the guys that produce the extreme shit that most of us don't support anyway get busted, but when a company that advertises on late night TV and is as well known as GGW gets caught it just give the religious right and the conservative politicians more fuel to burn us with.

[JoesHO]

Welcome to Election year , Hammer .

[HellHouse]

Well, on the plus side, isn't this all good news for us?

I mean, if buckcherry can make a video with 16yr old lesbian action and only face a civil lawsuit, with no criminal charges...

and

GGW seems to have spent a year or two ignoring 2257 requirements, yet only recieved a minimal fine....


Doesn't that set a precedence that keeps legitimate producers who takes efforts to follow the law fairly safe from prosecution of any sort?

I mean I know I spent a few grand making sure I had 100% 2257 compliance within my company and we analyzed it down to making sure there was no clerical errors or anything. I know alot of lawyers going around telling people that clerical errors could cost them prison time when it comes to 2257 laws.. but something tells me these recent cases kindof dispell that opinion.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying anyone should slack when it comes to 2257 documents, but I'm sure some people are losing sleep with worry when they really shouldn't be.

[bluemoney]

Originally Posted by Hammer

Who gives a fuck whether the fine bothers him or not? The point is that we're all fighting the perception that we're all a bunch of child pornographers and then this dick pulls this shit.

I agree, this makes the road for the rest of us just that much longer and harder.

[Hammer]

HellHouse brings up a good point. It sucks that this happened for the rest of us, but it does seem to be a good sign that a 2257 violation won't absolutely result in 5 years and a fine like most of the attorneys want us to believe. I'm sure each case will be taken on an individual basis and I'm sure that if you have at least attempted to comply that you'll end up with a fine. I would like to know exactly what the violations were though because if they indeed did not have docs on the girls in question, I think it's huge that someone didn't land in jail.

[pam]

I, too, wish to know exactly how they didn't comply. The problem now is people are going to be lazy, figuring no jail time and just a fine. Was this a plea bargain as it didn't go before a jury? The law says mandatory jail time, so how did he get just a fine?

2 million bucks isn't chump change when he has a lot of legal fees. Didn't he face other charges as well, something drug related?

[HellHouse]

From another article:

Francis agreed to personally pay a $500,000 fine to settle charges in Los Angeles that he failed to keep records of the ages and identities of the women who appeared in his films. As a result, Francis said in a statement, footage of minors engaging in sexually explicit conduct appeared in at least two DVDs he released.

Seems to me he completely failed to document the performers, and as a result, ended up taping a couple minors. Same thing Buckcherry did.

As I said before, I honestly do believe that this sets a precedence that keeps legitimate producers who take the required efforts to follow the law fairly safe from here on out.

Oh and a couple million dollars IS chump change, when compared to GGW's revenues.

[Hammer]

Originally Posted by HellHouse

Oh and a couple million dollars IS chump change, when compared to GGW's revenues.

Depends, because you don't know how much of that $40 million gross he actually gets to keep. I bet they spend $39 mill on advertising.

[JoesHO]

well you can always promote us, we have all our diocs on every girl and every shoot

BTW Hammer I need to get with you about podcasting from the road if you are interested, also I will be through Orlando in Nov so dinner is on you err I mean me LOL

[pam]

Originally Posted by Hammer

Depends, because you don't know how much of that $40 million gross he actually gets to keep. I bet they spend $39 mill on advertising.

That's what I inferred. Between the legal fees and advertising they spend to brand their name, it's a lot of cash.

If they admitted to filiming minors in sexually explicit videos -- why weren't they busted for CP??

Something isn't Kosher.