Mike South On Steve Irwin

[Hammer]

My apologies to Mike for the 'asshole' comment, it was out of line. I got steamed when I read the post and lost my usual professional cool.

[squirtingcarly]

I don't usually post, I lurk and then express my opinion to my husband but this really got next to me for some reason.

No one deserves to die for swimming in the ocean. Ted Bundy deserved to die. Tim McVeigh deserved to die. Steve Irwin wasn't a terrible human being, he was doing something that he loved and was trying to educate the world. Right, wrong, crazy it makes no difference. To say he got what he deserved is just cruel and insensitive. That is like saying-You deserved to get hit by that speeding car, you work for DOT. Ridiculous.

The family is the first thing that came to my mind, now 2 children have no dad. A little compassion for them would have been nice, you don't have to mourn Steve Irwins passing but don't say he deserved what he got.

[spazlabz]

Originally Posted by squirtingcarly

I don't usually post, I lurk and then express my opinion to my husband but this really got next to me for some reason.

No one deserves to die for swimming in the ocean. Ted Bundy deserved to die. Tim McVeigh deserved to die. Steve Irwin wasn't a terrible human being, he was doing something that he loved and was trying to educate the world. Right, wrong, crazy it makes no difference. To say he got what he deserved is just cruel and insensitive. That is like saying-You deserved to get hit by that speeding car, you work for DOT. Ridiculous.

The family is the first thing that came to my mind, now 2 children have no dad. A little compassion for them would have been nice, you don't have to mourn Steve Irwins passing but don't say he deserved what he got.

much better said then my attempt Carly Thank you for posting it


spaz

[JR]

Originally Posted by squirtingcarly

I don't usually post, I lurk and then express my opinion to my husband but this really got next to me for some reason.

No one deserves to die for swimming in the ocean.

no one thinks he "deserved" to die.

most seem to think that it was enevitable.

he wasn't "just swimming in the ocean" - he was standing in the middle of 10 poisonous rays, made a move for the biggest one and it killed him.

shouldn't come as a shocker to ANYONE.

if it was anyone else doing something similar, they would get a Darwin Award.

a $5.00 crack whore with a heroin needle broke off in her arm, has just as good a chance at predicting the behavior of a dangerous fish as he does. thats why common sense, instinct and everyones innate general sense of self preservation tells you to stay away.

[JohnV]

What's funny is the way peeps always "fight" about their opinions about other people who they really don't know and even funnier is how these other people you're arguing over don't know you or what you think. They get paid to do what they do...in Steve's case, he got paid well to tempt fate....it's simply a numbers game. His family will miss him for sure, but I bet they would never had said, "no Steve, don;t go swim with the fishes ;-)...anyway....

[Peaches]

Originally Posted by JR

he wasn't "just swimming in the ocean" - he was standing in the middle of 10 poisonous rays, made a move for the biggest one and it killed him.

shouldn't come as a shocker to ANYONE.

17 people have been killed by stingrays in recorded history. 21 people died this weekend on the roads of GA. Yes, it IS a shocker that he was killed by a stingray, IMO.

[JR]

Originally Posted by Peaches

17 people have been killed by stingrays in recorded history. 21 people died this weekend on the roads of GA. Yes, it IS a shocker that he was killed by a stingray, IMO.

i dont think its a shocker that a guy famous for doing over the top stuff with dangerous animals, finally got killed by doing over the top stuff with dangerous animals.

stats are irrelevant since a safe guess is that 16 of those people (and most people in general for that matter) didn't seek them out, proudly stand in the middle of them, enthusiastically jumping around, yelling out cute Aussi catch phrases, talking about how dangerous they are as they try to get close to the biggest one.

[tony404]

Originally Posted by Peaches

17 people have been killed by stingrays in recorded history. 21 people died this weekend on the roads of GA. Yes, it IS a shocker that he was killed by a stingray, IMO.

This brings something to mind isn't it funny how numb we are to auto deaths. When some big holiday weekend comes up,the news will say this weekend an estimated 200 people will die in auto accidents and most people instead of being shocked will say thats about right.
Also Mike likes to stir the pot so I wouldn't get to worked about what he says. Steve Irwin lived his life on his terms and for filled his dreams. How many people can say that?
They had on the news someone from the discovery channel and he said viewers want highly interactive animal programs. No one wants to watch animals from a distance. Its just like porn we all know condoms are best for safety but thats not what the viewers want.So we let unsafe practices happen.Are we really any different from Steve?

[gigi]

Tempting fate:

According to you guys, only idiots would become loggers, cops, firemen, racecar drivers, soldiers....especially if one has kids.

Do you smoke?

tempting fate.....yeah, that's it.....bad Mr. Irwin.

[JR]

Originally Posted by gigi

Tempting fate:

According to you guys, only idiots would become loggers, cops, firemen, racecar drivers, soldiers....especially if one has kids.

Do you smoke?

tempting fate.....yeah, that's it.....bad Mr. Irwin.

no.... we live in a free world where you are free to tempt fate and do dangerous shit all day long. however, only an idiot would be in complete and total shock that a race car driver got killed doing 200 mph, surrounded by other cars doing 200 mph.

big difference.

do what you want to do. if you want to juggle chainsaws,... please do so. its your right. just don't expect me to break down and cry when you fuck up and get killed doing it.

[MikeSouth]

Originally Posted by Hammer

My apologies to Mike for the 'asshole' comment, it was out of line. I got steamed when I read the post and lost my usual professional cool.

No worries Hammer...I been called a lot worse and in truth I can be an asshole and maybe I am on this one. It's OK I can cop to that.

I like to write or speak and make people think about things...or get them passionate.

The funny thing is that what I wrote wasn't incorrect and I suspect few would disagree that emulating Steve in the wild is asking for trouble. Remember the line about leaving only your footprints?

The thing everyone got upset with was because I referred to a dead guy as a dumbass, a dumb motherfucker and a moron and said he deserved what he got.

OK lets toss the incendiary labels. I have seen the mans show I have seen and read interviews with him and he has been bitten, stung, attacked, kicked and everything else many times and he always said he deserved it, so I doubt even Steve would disagree that he deserved what he got...I don't claim to speak for the man but he has generally done enough of it on his own.