Naked Rhino Sues Too Much Media

[Hell Puppy]

Originally Posted by JoesHO

I got a secret weapon

i dunno, a FFN with the shits is a serious threat. more than one "custodial engineer" has quit his job in the aftermath.

[TheEnforcer]

Ok.. there's codespeak going on...

[Jace]

back on the topic of the thread

I can tell you this...This whole situation is going to get VERY ugly before it gets even close to being better.

There is some seriously shady shit going on by one of the parties involved, and that will come to light VERY soon. All this lawsuit is, is a distraction from the original topic at hand.

The fucked up part of everything is that the actual complaint is full of so many lies that it could end up getting them into some trouble if anyone is called to speak their sides.

Chris and Brandi never started anything on their own, everything was Vegas and Angel's brainstorm from the start, in fact there are about 10 people that can totally vouche for that considering when they launched XclusiveCash.com at internext, they stood up in front of about 10-15 people and said something to the effect of "this was Vegas and Angel's idea from the start, and we are proud to be a part of it"

[Mike AI]

In my opinion that complaint is poorly written, but VERY funny.

I would love to see the clerks face when reading it.

[Hammer]

As far a I can tell, they're saying "Hey, you guys caught us with our hands in the cookie jar, but then you told everyone about it which caused us to drop the jar so now we're suing you for breaking our jar."

[Biggy]

Originally Posted by Mike AI

In my opinion that complaint is poorly written, but VERY funny.

I would love to see the clerks face when reading it.

I read the complaint and thought it was humorous as well. I'll bet anyone money TMM wins, and not only that, it gets thrown out of court in a relatively early stage. I hope the lawyers are getting paid and not working on contingency, i'm sure they would know better than to take contingency on this one.

What's classic is what was originally posted by the TMM crew was something along the lines of "There was a discrepancy, we were met with profanity and resistance, so we are terminating their license." They never said they shaved. In the complaint, NR cites all these board posters for making insinuations on shaving. Technically - they should be suing those people, not TMM. I'm no lawyer, but the original statement were statement of facts that cannot be denied as false, nor have they been denied as false.

[Hammer]

It's been awhile since I saw the thread, but as I recall, they accused Rhino of discrepancies, that although may not have been a direct accusation, certainly inferred shaving.

[Mish]

The reality is, regardless of calling out another business' ethics on the boards, if NATS is found guilty of libel, I believe they will have some serious reprecussions to face that will hit them directly in the wallet. They're not the only game in town.

[Biggy]

Originally Posted by Hammer

It's been awhile since I saw the thread, but as I recall, they accused Rhino of discrepancies, that although may not have been a direct accusation, certainly inferred shaving.

"This is a notification that Too Much Media, makers of the NATS affiliate systems, have been forced to temporarily suspend the NATS license belonging to N.R. Media, owners and operators of XclusiveCash.com

There was a discrepancy between the number of rebills reported to the NATS system from the rebills reported by CCBill. Upon attempting to rectify the situation with executives of N.R. media Too Much Media was met with full resistance and profanity as well as an abruptly terminated phone call.

At which point N.R. media agrees to fully repopulate the CCBill rebill data to represent the correct figures Too Much Media will reinstate the NATS license.

The suspension of the NATS license will not affect ongoing affiliate sales. It will only disable the administration area of NATS so that the program is rendered unusable until the situation is sorted out."


Read it, over and over again and point out where NATS said they were shaving. If NR has issues with being accused as shavers, they have to go after the people who literally said it and brought it to that level. Good luck proving inferences in a court of law, especially with that original statement.

As for TMM, if they lose significant business over this (which I doubt), based upon false claims in the complaint and the fact it was published on big websites (the fact they made it sound like it was a cover up for faulty software - who knows if this is true), I would say they have a much better case as a counter-suit, but I don't think there is any money to collect. John and crew are very smart, and his statement is nothing but a set of facts.