I am slowely starting to pull myself out of the adult industry...

[sarettah]

Originally Posted by Jace

If he was right in any way I would have been insulted, or even hurt....but fact is Russ knows nothing about me, my business or my income...so basically he is just grasping at a chance of an insult, which just makes him look bad, not me

Actually I was being sarcastic and imitating Rhetorical's Sabby bashing which you joined in on.

[Jace]

Originally Posted by sarettah

Actually I was being sarcastic and imitating Rhetorical's Sabby bashing which you joined in on.

ah, gotcha

It wasn't really sabby bashing, well maybe a little.....it was just honestly how I felt about her, and judging from the most recent events with her, it was pretty right on

She seems like she can be a nice person and all, but has a terrible psycho side to her

[sarettah]

Originally Posted by Jace

ah, gotcha

It wasn't really sabby bashing, well maybe a little.....it was just honestly how I felt about her, and judging from the most recent events with her, it was pretty right on

She seems like she can be a nice person and all, but has a terrible psycho side to her

I have yet to sense any psycho side to Sabby. She doesn't like springerdude (rhetorical) and he obviously has something against her, I know it goes back a long way but I don't know the details of it.

As far as the current Sabby stuff goes I know what I have read which sounds like both she and Jayman parted amiably. I do not label a change as failure (which Rhetorical does), it is in my mind merely a change.

Sabby has been around a long time and I have always enjoyed her, especially her pics

[brand0n]

what ever floats your boat bro

ill be right here with a packed bowl and a cold one waiting on your return

just when you thought you were out.. they pull you back in..

[softball]

Originally Posted by sarettah

I have yet to sense any psycho side to Sabby. She doesn't like springerdude (rhetorical) and he obviously has something against her, I know it goes back a long way but I don't know the details of it.

As far as the current Sabby stuff goes I know what I have read which sounds like both she and Jayman parted amiably. I do not label a change as failure (which Rhetorical does), it is in my mind merely a change.

Sabby has been around a long time and I have always enjoyed her, especially her pics

A brand change? With all respect I think it is a little more than that. Amicable? They all are in the news release. Not putting too fine a point on it Sar, but yes Sabby and I have a lot of history unfortunately, however that aside, this is far from a brand change.

[Jace]

Originally Posted by sarettah

I have yet to sense any psycho side to Sabby. She doesn't like springerdude (rhetorical) and he obviously has something against her, I know it goes back a long way but I don't know the details of it.

As far as the current Sabby stuff goes I know what I have read which sounds like both she and Jayman parted amiably. I do not label a change as failure (which Rhetorical does), it is in my mind merely a change.

Sabby has been around a long time and I have always enjoyed her, especially her pics

anyone reading her posts on the various boards can tell that the only amicable thing about it was they both agreed to part ways....other than that there is obvious ill will

I would venture to guess that Sabby, like most solo girls starting out, wanted instant fame and riches, and when the site was open for a few weeks and had a slow start, she got like 90% of the solo girls out there and freaked out wondering why nothing was happening

I have heard the same story over and over from solo girls having someone else do their site for them
"why isn't it open yet?"
"what is taking so long?"
"this is easy to do, why is it not going faster??"
"why is there not money rolling in yet?"
"let me just buy all the content and I will do it myself"

if Sabby had all this traffic she claims to have, she would have done it herself, but my guess is that JayMan got sick of hearing her shit and told her to hit the road. It is pretty easy to be a failure in the paysite market, but you almost have to laugh when that failure comes in less than a month or two.

[Trev]

Originally Posted by Jace

anyone reading her posts on the various boards can tell that the only amicable thing about it was they both agreed to part ways....other than that there is obvious ill will

I would venture to guess that Sabby, like most solo girls starting out, wanted instant fame and riches, and when the site was open for a few weeks and had a slow start, she got like 90% of the solo girls out there and freaked out wondering why nothing was happening

I have heard the same story over and over from solo girls having someone else do their site for them
"why isn't it open yet?"
"what is taking so long?"
"this is easy to do, why is it not going faster??"
"why is there not money rolling in yet?"
"let me just buy all the content and I will do it myself"

if Sabby had all this traffic she claims to have, she would have done it herself, but my guess is that JayMan got sick of hearing her shit and told her to hit the road. It is pretty easy to be a failure in the paysite market, but you almost have to laugh when that failure comes in less than a month or two.

I like both parties involved so I'm happy to see the "in public good front" from them, but maybe Jayman and Sabby should never have teamed up in the first place. Jayman has had massive success in his niches and Sabby has done very very well in hers... the teaming of the two in a new area for them both might have been a bridge too far imho...

[softball]

That site was doomed from the get go. Please take this as a professional opinion and not a personal barb. But there was never anything that gave it any kind of usp. There was no focus. It wasn't terribly good as a milf site and it was certainly not a young girl site. I think it was a good case study in what not to do if you want to do a single girl pay site. Unless you have a good gag, your site will fail. It has nothing to do with how pretty you are, how big your boobs are, or what you shove up what orifice. It is all to do with how you do it, how you spin it and then and only then, how you market it. This is a really good lesson for newbies to observe.

[Jace]

Originally Posted by rhetorical

That site was doomed from the get go. Please take this as a professional opinion and not a personal barb. But there was never anything that gave it any kind of usp. There was no focus. It wasn't terribly good as a milf site and it was certainly not a young girl site. I think it was a good case study in what not to do if you want to do a single girl pay site. Unless you have a good gag, your site will fail. It has nothing to do with how pretty you are, how big your boobs are, or what you shove up what orifice. It is all to do with how you do it, how you spin it and then and only then, how you market it. This is a really good lesson for newbies to observe.

i don't think the site was even up long enough to tell what it was going to be like as far as numbers go

fact remains, Sabby obviously has some sort of grudge against JayMan, it is obvious by the tone of her posts and some little things she has said on a lot of the boards.

[Toby]

Originally Posted by rhetorical

...There was no focus. It wasn't terribly good as a milf site and it was certainly not a young girl site. I think it was a good case study in what not to do if you want to do a single girl pay site. Unless you have a good gag, your site will fail. It has nothing to do with how pretty you are, how big your boobs are, or what you shove up what orifice. It is all to do with how you do it, how you spin it and then and only then, how you market it. This is a really good lesson for newbies to observe.

You and I don't often agree, but I have to admit, I was saying almost the exact same thing to someone during a conversation yesterday evening.