Sabby Van Ryan gone from jaymancash?

[softball]

Originally Posted by Trev

I'm going to start ass-backwards... it might work with you:


Pre Y2K would be 7 years not 6 - and I was referring to people that have known Sabby before you started stalking her and know her well enough to know Sabby isn't lying about you being mental scum! - Was that simple enough?



Banned, from here there and everywhere because the way you were acting back then tells me you're unhinged.



What question would that be me old genk?

Well obfuscation is your long suit Trev. If you are going dredging, I just have to look at the company you keep and do business with. And that would about say it all, old son.
As for Sabby, she has her own demons to bury now. Hopefully she will finally realise that she is not cut out for this business and no amount of scammers will pull her out of the fire. That would include you.

[gonzo]

No answers on Netpond either... looks like some of them bought domains too...
http://www.netpond.com/showthread.ph...0&page=1&pp=20

So very sad.

[Hell Puppy]

People love drama. Human nature. It's the thing the keeps bad reality tv shows going strong. It's hard not to stop and stare at a train wreck.

However, Sabby's trying to do business. Maybe made a few mistakes along the way, most of us have. But she's always been somewhat of a regular here on Oprano regardless of who the owner du jour is. Anyone still actually trying to do real business in adult should be welcome here and encouraged not gloated upon when they have a setback.

Pick yourself up and figure out what your next move is Sabby.

From the cheap seats down here in FFN-land, the relationship with jayman based upon his other sites didn't really seem to "fit". And the tours just didn't seem to carry any of the same psychology that you use to lure guys into your cam shows. A mistake IMO.

[pam]

I'd never seen the site but just clicked on it. Who wrote the text? I saw more typos than I could believe. I wasn't able to view any photos -- guess it's a good thing I'm not ready to sign up, because I'm one of those surfers who disables both javascript and Flash, so if I was looking for a MILF site, you'd have lost a customer.

Why oh why won't more webmasters realize that simple is best and not everyone wants all the bells and whistles?

[Sabby]

Originally Posted by pam

I'd never seen the site but just clicked on it. Who wrote the text? I saw more typos than I could believe. I wasn't able to view any photos -- guess it's a good thing I'm not ready to sign up, because I'm one of those surfers who disables both javascript and Flash, so if I was looking for a MILF site, you'd have lost a customer.

Why oh why won't more webmasters realize that simple is best and not everyone wants all the bells and whistles?

Sabby

[pam]

It's a real pet peeve of mine for a lot of reasons. When I began with sites, webTV was a big thing, and I quickly learned to make my sites as simple as possible so everyone could view them.

I can't tell you how many sites I can't view due to Flash or Javascript. I have had a few sites want to be reviewed and when I visited their page to sign up, Firefox would crash due to the Flash, and if I asked if they had a non-Flash page (many will do this, the smart folks) they would simply say no -- no brains to offer to sign me up so I don't crash, either.

I admit I don't know you or your niche, Sabby, but only know you from The Pond. My advice (unsolicited, for what its worth) is to contact Sheri Santiago of Wild West Cash since she has a lot of success with extreme girl sites. She's a porn chick with a good head on her shoulders (now is the time for the guys to chime in about her boobs).

[softball]

Originally Posted by pam

It's a real pet peeve of mine for a lot of reasons. When I began with sites, webTV was a big thing, and I quickly learned to make my sites as simple as possible so everyone could view them.

I can't tell you how many sites I can't view due to Flash or Javascript. I have had a few sites want to be reviewed and when I visited their page to sign up, Firefox would crash due to the Flash, and if I asked if they had a non-Flash page (many will do this, the smart folks) they would simply say no -- no brains to offer to sign me up so I don't crash, either.

I admit I don't know you or your niche, Sabby, but only know you from The Pond. My advice (unsolicited, for what its worth) is to contact Sheri Santiago of Wild West Cash since she has a lot of success with extreme girl sites. She's a porn chick with a good head on her shoulders (now is the time for the guys to chime in about her boobs).

I have been banging this drum for years. There is a need for speed on a website. It has to load fast, be uncomplicated, and simply navigable. Who cares if it looks all of this and all of that? If it sells, it is great design. However, Sabby herself has beat me up over my "ugly" web design for years, so I think this advice will fall on deaf ears.

[spazlabz]

Originally Posted by pam

I'd never seen the site but just clicked on it. Who wrote the text? I saw more typos than I could believe. I wasn't able to view any photos -- guess it's a good thing I'm not ready to sign up, because I'm one of those surfers who disables both javascript and Flash, so if I was looking for a MILF site, you'd have lost a customer.

Why oh why won't more webmasters realize that simple is best and not everyone wants all the bells and whistles?

http://www.oprano.com/msgboard/showthread.php?t=47845


spaz

[Sabby]

Originally Posted by Hell Puppy

From the cheap seats down here in FFN-land, the relationship with jayman based upon his other sites didn't really seem to "fit". And the tours just didn't seem to carry any of the same psychology that you use to lure guys into your cam shows. A mistake IMO.

Yep. That and I think they took on a few too many projects than they are capable of handling.


Sabby