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[gonzo]

Originally Posted by Hammer

And neither of those sites is a pay site and that's what we're talking about in this thread. Of course it's possible to make money with sites that have no content, but I'm pretty sure the discussion in this thread is member sites.

There's nothing wrong with a newbie learning how to get traffic and using sponsor sites to make money, but if they are starting a pay site, it would make zero sense to think about generating traffic before the members area had content in it.

Thats not entirely true.
If your researching your competition or nichewide you can get an idea of how that traffic would preform before building out a site.

Typically though I dont know many people that have that level of planning or patience.

[softball]

It seems to me there is a huge difference between doing research and marketing. This is not developing traffic with no content.
Xpeeps and pornotube are marketing a service (ie:content). So they have something to pitch. If you make money by selling "nothing" (ie:no content) then it's a scam.
This is comparing apples and oranges. I still stand by my original statement. If you don't have content (product), you can't gain traffic. This is all based on the premise that the whole deal is legit.

[Hell Puppy]

But the really important question here is who is the stunt cock?

[softball]

Originally Posted by Hell Puppy

But the really important question here is who is the stunt cock?

Who cares?