Tampa? New Orleans? Palm Springs? Looking for feedback...

[Sharpie]

Well, to answer a few questions:

San Fran was my #1 choice and has been for some time. I sent out several RFPs. It seems that most of the smaller hotels don't have space (they want to send you to the convention center) and the large hotels talk about 'marrying us with another group. Have already been there and done that too many times. It is too much pressure and lack of little privacy to ' marry with another group. Finally gave up.

The #4 choice was Atlantic City. The drawbacks were: no direct flights - making airfare higher, no conventions on weekends - would have to take weekdays, anything in the same chain (don't remember what name now they keep buying each other out - but are the major ones now there) won't allow an Adult convention. Many did not even answer. Too many remember the East Coast Video Show in it's heyday & want to raise prices for an Adult convention. Too much damage done.

Somewhere along there, Boston was also in consideration for awhile. Also Austin Texas, and Chicago.

Most of the North East Coast is very expensive, and I am not talking about just rooms - other show related costs are all very high.

and Tampa is nothing like Miami - totally different in many ways. Not only further North, both the people and the coastline on the West side of Florida are different. We have posted on several boards & I thought the first critisim would be 2 shows in Florida - but you were the first to mention it.

Our size show has many problems in hotel selection. We are not large enough to contract for all the rooms in most hotels & not the type of show to co-exhist with other shows. We do need space requirements that most smaller hotels don't have. Outside areas are starting to get more important for shows. We have too many smokers & people don't want to have to stay inside all the time. They want courtyards & outside areas. The majority of hotels don't have that to offer. You almost have to choose a resort for any outside areas to conregate.

So, if anyone has the right kind of hotel in another location that would have us & that meets our criteria - we would love to check into it. There is a lot more to it than just choosing a city.

[Hammer]

Thanks for the informative reply, Faye.

From what I've seen on the other boards, Tampa seems to be the first choice, and I have to admit that given these choices, it's my first choice as well. I will say that when I left for Cybernet this year it was 90 plus in Orlando and it was a welcome relief to get to the West coast and some cooler less humid weather. If Tampa becomes the final selection, I'd be stuck in Florida for both Cybernet and Internext so I might seriously consider XBiz instead of Cybernet next year.

[Sharpie]

Originally Posted by Hammer

Thanks for the informative reply, Faye.

From what I've seen on the other boards, Tampa seems to be the first choice, and I have to admit that given these choices, it's my first choice as well. I will say that when I left for Cybernet this year it was 90 plus in Orlando and it was a welcome relief to get to the West coast and some cooler less humid weather. If Tampa becomes the final selection, I'd be stuck in Florida for both Cybernet and Internext so I might seriously consider XBiz instead of Cybernet next year.

I remember crossing the parking lot one night in Vegas a few years back during the JULY VSDA show and looking up at that clock/temperature sign that used to be there and it said 11:59 pm and the temp was 100 degrees.... that was pretty hot I thought at that time of night. However, dry heat is different than heat with humidity. But then, if your not on the beach, you go from your air conditioned car to a air conditioned building, and hope it is not too far.

It would be nice to find a time & place for a show that had perfect temperatures - but then that is usually considered 'season and unaffordable. There are so many shows nowdays, you can't vary the dates much. They had a May dates available for Tampa, when the weather is more reasonable - but then you have Mothers Day, Memorial Day, the Toronto show that month, so we were limited. We just have to find the spaces that meets the criteria and consider the pros & cons:-) Just no way to be the best choice for everyone.

[gonzo]

I would go to all 3.
Tampa cuz Berns is there.
New Orleans becasue I have friends and clients there.
And Palm Springs so I could go see Confucy's double wide.

[Jace]

Originally Posted by Sharpie

However, dry heat is different than heat with humidity.

I have heard people say that shit for years, and I have lived in both dry and wet heat....it is ALL HEAT....100F is 100F no matter where you are, both are miserable and not places I want to be

i guess what I am saying is, i never have noticed a difference between dry heat and wet heat....

[Hell Puppy]

Originally Posted by Jace

I have heard people say that shit for years, and I have lived in both dry and wet heat....it is ALL HEAT....100F is 100F no matter where you are, both are miserable and not places I want to be

i guess what I am saying is, i never have noticed a difference between dry heat and wet heat....

I think it's mostly people from outside the south that say it's a "dry heat".

Reason being that they cant STAND our wet heat.

I had someone in from Denver a week or so ago, and they would bitch the minute we walked out of the air conditioning. Being used to that thin air, no heat, no humidity, they said it was like they could "feel" our air, it was "thick".


Meanwhile when I travel to a dry area like Vegas, my body is fighting to stay moist. Long ass showers. I drink tons of water. And at night use the ice bucket trick to try to get some moisture in the air. But by day two my skin is still totally dry and I wake up having to "escavate" and have thngs coming out of my nostrils that remind me of the movie "Total Recall"

[Peaches]

Originally Posted by Hell Puppy

Being used to that thin air, no heat, no humidity, they said it was like they could "feel" our air, it was "thick".

I can remember that feeling after coming back from a week in CA in July. I walked out of the ATL airport and it literally felt like thick air all around me.

I agree with you Jace, I couldn't tell the difference between the 100 heat in Vegas and the 100 heat in ATL. Hot is hot. And miserable.