Diabolic gets an FBI visit - first enforcement of 2257.. who's next?

[pam]

Originally Posted by Greg B

Nothing is safe if it can't be controlled by the powers that be. The only reasons online porn are being attacked are:

1.) Fucked up webmaster criminals ripping people off.

Say what?

You think some dishonest websites caused this? Go back to the Meese Commission report (was that before your time?) and read the dates when the original 18 USC 2257 was born. The Internet was in its infancy at that time.

You've been in the industry long enough to know that affiliate programs don't convert, huh? I think you just suck at web promotion, to be blunt. Many of us have made more money than you'll ever see in your lifetime due to honest affiliate programs.

Not sure who you hang out with, but I'm not aware of any of my webmaster friends who have had to go through rehab. I don't drink, smoke, gamble or do drugs, nor do I sleep around, and gee, I'm in the adult industry. By your statements I should be a coke-snorting slut who installs Spyware to make cash while placing bets in her sleep through some script she stole from an unsuspecting innocent.

[LadyMischief]

Originally Posted by pam

Say what?

You think some dishonest websites caused this? Go back to the Meese Commission report (was that before your time?) and read the dates when the original 18 USC 2257 was born. The Internet was in its infancy at that time.

You've been in the industry long enough to know that affiliate programs don't convert, huh? I think you just suck at web promotion, to be blunt. Many of us have made more money than you'll ever see in your lifetime due to honest affiliate programs.

Not sure who you hang out with, but I'm not aware of any of my webmaster friends who have had to go through rehab. I don't drink, smoke, gamble or do drugs, nor do I sleep around, and gee, I'm in the adult industry. By your statements I should be a coke-snorting slut who installs Spyware to make cash while placing bets in her sleep through some script she stole from an unsuspecting innocent.

Haha I was thinking the same thing. I don't drink or anything like that either, and I work extremely hard for what I get. There are definitely some bad industry "apples", but they are the exception for the most part, not the rule. Any good company that wants to stay in business for any amount of time can't afford to be dishonest... we're seeing this come to a head even more now with the downfall of legendary cheats and thieves.

[Hammer]

There are assholes in every industry, but to make generalizations about any industry based on the minority that are bad is just plain silly.

[Greg B]

Originally Posted by LadyMischief

Haha I was thinking the same thing. I don't drink or anything like that either, and I work extremely hard for what I get. There are definitely some bad industry "apples", but they are the exception for the most part, not the rule. Any good company that wants to stay in business for any amount of time can't afford to be dishonest... we're seeing this come to a head even more now with the downfall of legendary cheats and thieves.

Sure there are bad apples Mischief and sure they're the exception not the rule but they sure leave a bad taste in the public and government's mouths.

[LadyMischief]

Originally Posted by Greg B

Sure there are bad apples Mischief and sure they're the exception not the rule but they sure leave a bad taste in the public and government's mouths.

Unfortunately it's true, the government and public uses those people as a focus. Think for a minute about how suddenly everyone thinks Myspace is horrible based on some bad experiences. Sure there have been quite a few, but if you actually think about how many people USE myspace, and how many incidents of rotten stuff have happened, the numbers just aren't that scary. The media will always focus on what gets the story, and therefore the government will too, because suddenly it's urgent and horrible and everyone doing porn is evil too.

The few bad apples make it a little bit harder for all of us, but life, or business without challenge would get awfully boring quickly

[Greg B]

Originally Posted by pam

Say what?

You think some dishonest websites caused this? Go back to the Meese Commission report (was that before your time?) and read the dates when the original 18 USC 2257 was born. The Internet was in its infancy at that time.

You've been in the industry long enough to know that affiliate programs don't convert, huh? I think you just suck at web promotion, to be blunt. Many of us have made more money than you'll ever see in your lifetime due to honest affiliate programs.

Not sure who you hang out with, but I'm not aware of any of my webmaster friends who have had to go through rehab. I don't drink, smoke, gamble or do drugs, nor do I sleep around, and gee, I'm in the adult industry. By your statements I should be a coke-snorting slut who installs Spyware to make cash while placing bets in her sleep through some script she stole from an unsuspecting innocent.

Meese commission? Kid I'm older than most modern legislation so don't flap your lips at me about 'before your time' shit.

"make more money they you'll ever see in a lifetime..."

Highly unlikely. I'm gonna put that on the bathroom wall at the nearest hooters.

Some affiliate programs rock. Some don't. I don't like most and have known the folks behind them since they started them over a decade ago and then some.

You have no fucking clue as to whom I've dealt with in this business over the past ten years and whom I've helped so shake that shit in the wind with the rest of it.