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Old 07-25-2006   #1
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Default Re: Congress targets deceptive 'sex' sites

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No they don't want to shut down porn period.
Since you aren't actually involved in the porn business and are a newbie, I'll overlook that one a bit, but you do realize that you're the only person I've seen post on any adult webmaster board that believes that?

George Bush and the right wing Christians want to eliminate porn completely. They do not belive that there is such a thing as 'good' porn or 'bad' porn, there is just 'porn' and it's all bad. If you don't have sex under the covers with the lights off, you're a bad person.

So, any bill or law you see being touted that on the surface seems to be intended to stop illegal things like CP, is simply a cleverly disguised attack on porn in general.

Let me ask you this. Have you ever read 2257? I'm thinking not, but if you had, you'd know that it will do nothing to stop CP. Child pornographers do not sell their dirty little pictures on the Internet on legitimate adult websites using credit cards. They trade it in an underground system. They hang out in AOL chat rooms. They do all kinds of devious things and nothing in 2257 will do anything to alleviate the problem.

All of us in this business are against CP and will promote any EFFECTIVE plan to eliminate it, but supporting the new 'secondary producers' addons to 2257 or any other bill that purports to be intended to stop CP is simply supporting an effort to eliminate your livelihood.
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Old 07-25-2006   #2
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Since you aren't actually involved in the porn business and are a newbie, I'll overlook that one a bit, but you do realize that you're the only person I've seen post on any adult webmaster board that believes that?
As an aside Ive known Greg for years. Hes not new to this biz.
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As an aside Ive known Greg for years. Hes not new to this biz.
He sure talks like he is.
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Old 07-25-2006   #4
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He sure talks like he is.

Hammer, I was waiting for one of you to show up. There's always that one guy on a message board that is Mr. Know-it-the-fuck-all and who acts like everyone should kiss his ass and bow the fuck down to.

When you can't get your way you whine and make insults. It's typical of an unstable psyche brought about by the fear others will discover your foibles and dumb shit you've done you're trying to hide.

You wanna trade insults? I will bury you. You wanna have a decent conversation about relative events? Cool I'm with you.
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Old 07-25-2006   #5
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Since you aren't actually involved in the porn business and are a newbie, I'll overlook that one a bit, but you do realize that you're the only person I've seen post on any adult webmaster board that believes that?

George Bush and the right wing Christians want to eliminate porn completely. They do not belive that there is such a thing as 'good' porn or 'bad' porn, there is just 'porn' and it's all bad. If you don't have sex under the covers with the lights off, you're a bad person.

So, any bill or law you see being touted that on the surface seems to be intended to stop illegal things like CP, is simply a cleverly disguised attack on porn in general.

Let me ask you this. Have you ever read 2257? I'm thinking not, but if you had, you'd know that it will do nothing to stop CP. Child pornographers do not sell their dirty little pictures on the Internet on legitimate adult websites using credit cards. They trade it in an underground system. They hang out in AOL chat rooms. They do all kinds of devious things and nothing in 2257 will do anything to alleviate the problem.

All of us in this business are against CP and will promote any EFFECTIVE plan to eliminate it, but supporting the new 'secondary producers' addons to 2257 or any other bill that purports to be intended to stop CP is simply supporting an effort to eliminate your livelihood.
You should LOOK before you LIP.

I ain't no newbie Mr. Know-it-all. Been doing this for 10 years now.

When it comes to the law I work with the best constitutional lawyers in the world. Have been for over 25 years now as well as experts in all areas of the law. I could break your heart with who I work with and consult for. So know before you blow.
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