Old timers your time has come and gone !!! pay attention newbies

[Jace]

Joe, you seem like a nice guy and you are friends with some of the same people I am...but jesus dude, let this old timer/newbies shit is tired man

do like everyone else has done and fucking let it go man, no one wants to hear it anymore

just do your fucking business and make money

I hate to say it, but every thread you fight with those guys in and every time you bring up this little old timer war shit, just makes me think less and less of you, i doubt you really cared to begin with anyway though

[Mike AI]

Content is important, I have been slinging it since 1996. Hell, content is what originally motivated me. Back in the early days there was not much money in this industry.

However, I have come to see real fortunes are made by those who control the traffic. Think Google.

But it is more then just raw traffic now, it is about analysising, understand and manipulating your traffic to match up potential customers to others.

Content is now a commodity. From wickipidea, to youtube, to myspace. Anyone can create content now a days - all content is digital now.

Enjoy this free lesson from an no-nothing oldtimer.

[softball]

Originally Posted by Mike AI

Content is important, I have been slinging it since 1996. Hell, content is what originally motivated me. Back in the early days there was not much money in this industry.

However, I have come to see real fortunes are made by those who control the traffic. Think Google.

But it is more then just raw traffic now, it is about analysising, understand and manipulating your traffic to match up potential customers to others.

Content is now a commodity. From wickipidea, to youtube, to myspace. Anyone can create content now a days - all content is digital now.

Enjoy this free lesson from an no-nothing oldtimer.

You are obviously more than a no nothing old timer. But it is the same mantra I have been preaching for years. Raw traffic is like water flowing down a river. Unless you put a damn and a hydro plant in the mix, then it is worthless unless there is a drought. It takes no talent to sell water in a drought. This board was owned and populated by water merchants dishing out useless advice for years.
"Content is now a commodity"
That is by definition what content is, was and always will be. If you don't understand that, then you are fucked right out of the gate. Those of us who deal in content have always understood this. When you understand traffic and content, then you will do well on the net. A free lesson from an old timer.
As for the lesson.....thanks.

[Hammer]

Can't say I agree with Jay on that one. Content is important, but traffic is king, period. You can have the best content in the world, but with no traffic, it will be worthless, however, with enough traffic, even shitty content will make you money.

p.s. I'm not one of the 'old timers' you're referring to, but since I've been a member since 2003 and started working with adult websites in '96, maybe you could come up with a different term, because chronologically speaking, I'm definitely an old timer.

[softball]

good content can make good money. Shitty traffic can make shitty money. And vice versa.
Here is the real deal. If you can produce your own content, you can make serious money. If you have to pay for it, it becomes less serious.
At a certain volume of business, none of this applies and all bets are off.

The most profitable is focussed traffic on great content. Least amount of work and aggro for the highest rate of return.

This is just good business.

[JoesHO]

Yes it is a specific group I refer too, Old timer is not the best of terms I agree.


Many people that have been in the industry for years were not thieves and scammers and claim to be smarter than everyone else because the were a good thief or a good scammer .


But would you not agree that the same crowd I refer to has caused the industry to suffer do to their greed and business practices?

This is the part that I see as changing now .

[sKiTz]

Hey.... I'm glad that there was some dickhead I could dump on for my first post in years.....


If you see any "old timers" still around, that should tell you something.

Doggie Diarriah like you will run on and on, but it all eventually dries up and the doggie has to go somewhere else.


I'm voting for the old timers to still be here long after your gone. Not that I know anything about old timers.