Don't fear the 'meegra

[Hammer]

I don't have a problem with immigrants, but when they sneak into our country to make money and then sneak back to Mexico, that bugs me.

The idea of allowing their children to attend out public schools that we pay taxes to support and they pay nothing for, bugs me.

Allowing them free medical attention at emergency rooms bugs me.

Living in Southern California, Texas or Florida where we now have bilingual signs in department stores, bugs me.

When I stop at a convenience store and the employees don't speak English, that bugs me.

If you come to this country to work, pay taxes.

If you don't speak the language, learn and I'm not going to change my signs just because you're too fucky lazy to.

[Jace]

Originally Posted by Hammer

I don't have a problem with immigrants, but when they sneak into our country to make money and then sneak back to Mexico, that bugs me. The idea of allowing their children to attend out public schools that we pay taxes to support and they pay nothing for bugs me too. Allowing them free medical attention at emergency rooms bugs me. Living in Southern California, Texas or Florida where we now have bilingual signs in department stores and when you stop at a convenience store and the employees don't speak English, bugs me.

If you come to this country to work, pay taxes.
If you don't speak the language, learn and I'm not going to change my signs just because you're too fucky lazy to.

i agree with every single thing above

we went to miami a year or so ago to a town called Hialeah (sp?) for a feature gig for tabitha, and while we were there we didn't find one person in any restaurant or shop that spoke english...we went to Wendy's for lunch and my wife tried to get mayonaise on her sandwich and they had to pull the manager out of the back room to translate for us.I just couldn't believe we were in America

[PornoDoggy]

Originally Posted by Jace

i agree with every single thing above

we went to miami a year or so ago to a town called Hialeah (sp?) for a feature gig for tabitha, and while we were there we didn't find one person in any restaurant or shop that spoke english...we went to Wendy's for lunch and my wife tried to get mayonaise on her sandwich and they had to pull the manager out of the back room to translate for us.I just couldn't believe we were in America

You sound like my grandpop describing his first trip to St. Louis which was before WWI.

The difference is that my grandpop didn't speak German.

[Winetalk.com]

Originally Posted by Hammer

Living in Southern California, Texas or Florida where we now have bilingual signs in department stores, bugs me.

Never go to Japan, the second biggest economy in the world,
ALL their signs are in Japanese and English,
this would bug the living shit out of you.

[Hammer]

Originally Posted by Winetalk.com

Never go to Japan, the second biggest economy in the world,
ALL their signs are in Japanese and English,
this would bug the living shit out of you.

The difference is that a huge number of English speaking people either do business in Japan and visit the country as tourists so they do it for convenience and those people aren't there illegally.

That's quite a bit different than accomodating Spanish speaking people because they live here but don't know how to speak the language.

[Winetalk.com]

Originally Posted by Hammer

The difference is that a huge number of English speaking people either do business in Japan and visit the country as tourists so they do it for convenience and those people aren't there illegally.

That's quite a bit different than accomodating Spanish speaking people because they live here but don't know how to speak the language.

not true...
Japan is #30 on the list of most visited countries, same as Croatia.

[Jace]

Originally Posted by Winetalk.com

Never go to Japan, the second biggest economy in the world,
ALL their signs are in Japanese and English,
this would bug the living shit out of you.

and I am sure the illegal immigrant problem is out of control in japan, all those damn pesky illegal american immigrants must get on those japanese peoples nerves!

[Winetalk.com]

Originally Posted by Hammer

I don't have a problem with immigrants, but when they sneak into our country to make money and then sneak back to Mexico, that bugs me..

Does it bug you that they do the job you and your ilk don't wanna do and keep inflation lower than it would have been otherwise?

[Hammer]

Originally Posted by Winetalk.com

Does it bug you that they do the job you and your ilk don't wanna do and keep inflation lower than it would have been otherwise?

That's the one and only reason that they are tolerated at all. But they don't only do menial labor like picking apples and oranges, they also get jobs as waiters in Mexican restaurants and do other jobs that Americans are willing to do and get paid a fair wage to do.

And what do you mean 'my ilk'? Would you pick fruit? I doubt it so that makes you of the same ilk as me.

[Winetalk.com]

Originally Posted by Hammer

That's the one and only reason that they are tolerated at all. But they don't only do menial labor like picking apples and oranges, they also get jobs as waiters in Mexican restaurants and do other jobs that Americans are willing to do and get paid a fair wage to do.

And what do you mean 'my ilk'? Would you pick fruit? I doubt it so that makes you of the same ilk as me.

what is "menial"? How many mistakes have you done in 6 letters word,
posting in the language which is your native?

[Hammer]

Originally Posted by Winetalk.com

what is "menial"? How many mistakes have you done in 6 letters word,
posting in the language which is your native?

I make very few spelling mistakes. http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=menial

Common Serge, that was realling silly. Maybe you should have looked it up before you stuck your foot in your mouth.

[Winetalk.com]

Originally Posted by Hammer

I make very few spelling mistakes. http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=menial

Common Serge, that was realling silly. Maybe you should have looked it up before you stuck your foot in your mouth.

That was good, you wipped my ass fair and square on this one. Touche.

[Jace]

Originally Posted by Winetalk.com

Does it bug you that they do the job you and your ilk don't wanna do and keep inflation lower than it would have been otherwise?

where are people coming up with this thing that americans don't want to paint walls or pick tabacco? that makes no sense and is an illogical argument

americans NEED jobs, most of the peopel I know that need jobs don't care what job it is, but they do care that some illegal is taking what could be their money

and since when have you known poor people to turn down jobs because it wasn't glamorous enough?

[Rcourt64]

Originally Posted by Winetalk.com

Does it bug you that they do the job you and your ilk don't wanna do and keep inflation lower than it would have been otherwise?

I don't believe that it's right for them coming here and "Do the jobs you and your ilk don't wanna do" They are a very hard working race, and will work for pennies. which is fine for the economy. But when a major hiring company tells me that either I accept the standards of there job & they will only pay $ amount. And if I don't like it, well theres about 25 illegals hanging at the 7-11 on the corner. who will perform the same work "and some more even" the average american won't do for 1/2 the paying price. So if we don't like it, well, theres the door.

[Winetalk.com]

Originally Posted by Hammer

When I stop at a convenience store and the employees don't speak English, that bugs me.

are you living in "One Convenience Store" town? Go to another one, where you'll be fully understood and given all TLC in perfectly spoken English and enjoy the best service in the world.

Originally Posted by Hammer

If you don't speak the language, learn and I'm not going to change my signs just because you're too fucky lazy to.

Americans are the laziest bunch on Earth as far as knowledge of second language goes. I know only ONE member here who is fluent in the language which is not his native - JR, while few here can hardly express themselves coherently in English - the "native tongue".

[Hammer]

are you living in "One Convenience Store" town? Go to another one, where you'll be fully understood and given all TLC in perfectly spoken English and enjoy the best service in the world.

Apparently you've not been to many convenience stores in Miami.

not true...
Japan is #30 on the list of most visited countries, same as Croatia.

ummm... Big difference between visitors and illegal immigrants and I seriously doubt if any Americans are illegally immigrating to Japan or Croatia and being supported by those government.

[Winetalk.com]

Originally Posted by Hammer

Apparently you've not been to many convenience stores in Miami..

when I go there, I speak broken Spanish and ALWAYS get what I need.

Originally Posted by Hammer

ummm... Big difference between visitors and illegal immigrants and I seriously doubt if any Americans are illegally immigrating to Japan or Croatia and being supported by those government.

In case you didn't know, Americans are not the only people on Earth that speak English. I doubt you knew that

[Hammer]

Originally Posted by Winetalk.com

In case you didn't know, Americans are not the only people on Earth that speak English. I doubt you knew that

Of course they aren't, but are you saying that Japan has a huge problem with illegal British, Canadian and Australian immigrants?

You really are looking weak in this thread. Maybe you should stick to one you're competent to comment in.