Life sure can throw you a curveball sometimes.

[Jace]

holy shit that sucks

seriously man, that sounds like something was wrong in his brain

technically, you have to take A LOT of painkillers to black out from combining them with drinking....in fact, there aren't that many cases of it without something else combining, like a brain injury

xanax and things like that are known for their effects with alcohol, but pain killers take a lot to give that result

regardless, that sucks, and I hope they find the guy that punched him and I hope he goes to jail for a long time...after all, that is wreckless homicide (or something like that)...if you punch someone and it leads to their death, you are responsible

[PornoDoggy]

Originally Posted by Jace

holy shit that sucks

seriously man, that sounds like something was wrong in his brain

technically, you have to take A LOT of painkillers to black out from combining them with drinking....in fact, there aren't that many cases of it without something else combining, like a brain injury

xanax and things like that are known for their effects with alcohol, but pain killers take a lot to give that result

regardless, that sucks, and I hope they find the guy that punched him and I hope he goes to jail for a long time...after all, that is wreckless homicide (or something like that)...if you punch someone and it leads to their death, you are responsible

Technically, you are dead wrong. Sounds an awful lot like street/bar bullshit to me. (I used to tell myself stuff like that all the time, I have to admit.)

First of all, I think you mean pass out - and there is no way to predict how much alcohol combined with any given painkiller it takes any specific individual to impact them. They do some of the same things in different ways, so there is no real way to qunatify it.

I can (could, since it's been a dozen years since I've "tried") BLACK out on just alcohol - but usually it takes a 3-4 of hours of serious drinking to do it. Put two Tylenol III (codine) in me, and all bets are off - I lost an entire weekend once after two beers on Friday afternoon. There are a lot more serious painkillers than that out there that have far more of an impact on the chemical combinations.

I am truly sorry the guy died, but it could be hard to make a serious case against the perp because of combining drinking and drugs. Even a half-assed public defender could do a lot with something like that.

[Raven]

There was a case many years ago about a young girl who drank a little wine, took a few pills and went into a persistent vegetative state...the research that came out of this particular incident pretty much proves that alcohol, no matter how low the content, plus pills, do not mix..especially with a head injury...whether it be a mild concussion or an aneuryism waiting to happen...

Either way, it's very sad to see one so young die..and my condolences to you....

[Jace]

Originally Posted by PornoDoggy

Technically, you are dead wrong. Sounds an awful lot like street/bar bullshit to me. (I used to tell myself stuff like that all the time, I have to admit.)

First of all, I think you mean pass out - and there is no way to predict how much alcohol combined with any given painkiller it takes any specific individual to impact them. They do some of the same things in different ways, so there is no real way to qunatify it.

I can (could, since it's been a dozen years since I've "tried") BLACK out on just alcohol - but usually it takes a 3-4 of hours of serious drinking to do it. Put two Tylenol III (codine) in me, and all bets are off - I lost an entire weekend once after two beers on Friday afternoon. There are a lot more serious painkillers than that out there that have far more of an impact on the chemical combinations.

I am truly sorry the guy died, but it could be hard to make a serious case against the perp because of combining drinking and drugs. Even a half-assed public defender could do a lot with something like that.

I am just going from past experience man, I will be the first to admit I know nothing about it from a legal standpoint...and do we even know if the guy was a pass out black out drunk?

my point with the lawsuit was coming from a buddy I had a few years back that got jumped after a bar let out and someone cracked his jaw and it had to be wired shut...the dude that did it settled out of court for almost $100k

I personally haven't seen someone black out from pain killers in years, but I guess you are right it can happen for someone that doesn't take them a lot, I wasn't thinking